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Steyn Online ^ | 11 Apr 2020 | Kathy Shaidle

Posted on 04/12/2020 10:28:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan

There's too much chatter about movies that are "so bad, they're good." These admittedly amusing musings distract from a truly insidious phenomenon:

Movies "so good, they're bad."

No such creature as "just a movie" exists. We may (believe ourselves to) be capable of separating fact from fiction, but millions of people never will.

Take the "Hitler's Pope" canard. It was popularized by, of all things, a Soviet-orchestrated stage play called The Deputy, back in 1963. How many individuals have heard of this play, let alone seen it performed? A few thousand? Yet the Vatican's supposed collusion with the Nazis is widely considered "common knowledge," despite all the well-researched critiques which have not, in like fashion, been rendered down into easily digestible, entertaining, two-hour public performances.

I remain perturbed by Ben Affleck's reduction of Canada's crucial role in the rescue of American hostages in Argo. Brits object, among other things, to the portrayal of their ancestors as war criminals in The Patriot. James Cameron had to apologize for slandering a Titanic officer. Do not get me started on Thirteen Days...

And it gives me no (okay, a little...) pleasure to inform those of you forced to sit through corporate "team building" exercises based on the "square peg in a round hole" scene in Apollo 13 that, in actuality, one man came up with that lifesaving fix; as in most situations here on planet Earth, a team probably would have taken much longer and just screwed things up.

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To: entropy12

You don’t need to be an expert with guns to know that a large and messy exit wound is more likely to transfer kinetic energy to the target (and cause it to move in the opposite direction) than a small entry wound. It’s basic physics. The side of JFK’s head blowing off is what moved his head backwards. The conspiratorial assumption that this meant the shot came form the front is erroneous.


81 posted on 04/12/2020 12:25:04 PM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: jmacusa

Bit harsh that....


82 posted on 04/12/2020 12:27:40 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: stuckincali

LBJ was only an actor like all politicians.

If tomorrow morning I brought you a carcanoand a whole box of magic bullets and the next morning you went out and addressed what many would consider the top 546 problems in this country then what would change the next day?

The names on the desks.

Each politician would be replaced by the same powers that hired the first set of actors with new actors to represent their ideas.

Who hired LBJ for that role?


83 posted on 04/12/2020 12:29:59 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Exactly so!


84 posted on 04/12/2020 12:30:17 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: nesnah
"Evidence controlled by who? The FBI? The CIA? The Deep State?"

No. The evidence collected by the Dallas Police on 11/22/63.

85 posted on 04/12/2020 12:32:20 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Rummyfan
A better account is the 1974 TV "movie" (more like a play as it was shot on videotape) THE MISSILES OF OCTOBER. Ken O'Donnell is portrayed in the movie and has little to do with anything. In fact, at the start of the movie, JFK (William Devane) upbraids him for stressing that Cuba is an unimprtant campaign issue (this is after JFK had seen the U2 photos).
86 posted on 04/12/2020 12:33:28 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: stuckincali
"I understand. But motive is one/third of the triangle of elements of murder."

And isn't enough by itself. You need actual evidence.

"One wonders how Oswald got the job..."

That's part of the record, and doesn't argue for a conspiracy.

"...and then the route of the caravan was changed to go right by the building where he worked."

It wasn't changed. That's part of the false mythology.

"One wonders why LBJ at dinner the night before ,to his long time Texas secretary said, that “after tomorrow we won’t have to worry about the Kennedy’s anymore.”

That never happened. It was claimed by a book full of lies.

"One wonders, after Johnny Roselli visited Joe Kennedy to get his sons to lay off the mafia when the mafia had helped him in the WV primary and in the main election in Chicago Kennedy said he would talk to them when they came home for Christmas, but he had a major stroke; would that have changed the course of history? But then again the mafia usually laid off of elected officials in order to not rile up the public."

Not of any significance to the assassination.

87 posted on 04/12/2020 12:36:23 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Trailerpark Badass

There’s nothing that even hints at him being an asset. Even the soviets wanted nothing to with him. They recognized he was unstable.


88 posted on 04/12/2020 12:41:01 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dfwgator; Rummyfan
I remain perturbed by Ben Affleck's reduction of Canada's crucial role in the rescue of American hostages in Argo. Brits object, among other things, to the portrayal of their ancestors as war criminals in The Patriot. James Cameron had to apologize for slandering a Titanic officer. Do not get me started on Thirteen Days...

And don't get me started on the portrayal of Poles in every Holocaust movie.

Or the movie U-571 where the US Navy captures the NAZI cryptography set, when it was the British who actually did it.

I actually operated the old analog style crypto gear in the USAF.   That was a different time too.

89 posted on 04/12/2020 12:43:22 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
You can shoot a thousand melons and half will go one way, half will go another. I know; I’ve done it.

I TOLD you to stay out of my melon patch!

Just a couple of thoughts on this:

It was never the multiple shooters that made me think it was a conspiracy. It was the fact that after Oswald was taken into custody, he was shot by a guy with mafia connections that owned a strip club, closing the loop.

Just amazing that JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon, and Ronald Reagan, were all shot by lone nuts.

Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot Gerald Ford, but her .45 semi-auto jammed. Seventeen days later, a former FBI informant with "mental problems" tried to shoot him. If Ford had been assassinated, the President would have been Nelson Rockefeller.

J. Edgar Hoover always claimed there was no organized crime in America. The JFK movie was made to muddy the water, not clear it up.

90 posted on 04/12/2020 12:46:43 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
He didn’t. The CIA killed Kennedy. But if you’re insistent on defending the CIA, and LBJ, be my guest.

Were you in Oswald's pocket or were you just glad to see him there?

91 posted on 04/12/2020 12:49:52 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: dp0622
The crucifixion of Armenian girls has never left my mind either.

Who did that? The Turks? Or???

92 posted on 04/12/2020 12:52:59 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You don’t think the CIA/FBI uses marginal people? Stable people have too much to lose.


93 posted on 04/12/2020 12:54:02 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: mlo

Bump


94 posted on 04/12/2020 1:03:20 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Richard Kimball

Yes, even if oswald was the successful lone gunman, that doesn’t disprove a conspiracy. After what the fedgov le/intel edifice has just done to try and get rid of trump, I can’t believe anyone can say they weren’t in on it. The Viietnam war was a cia war.


95 posted on 04/12/2020 1:07:00 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: entropy12
although later British actions during the Mau Mau insurgencies in Kenya

In my late adolescence I found the book "Something of Value" on my Mothers book shelf. The British used unconscionable acts as PSYOPS against the Mau Mau to crush the spiritualist tribal beliefs.

On a side note, I have no doubt that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was an active militant in exile from the Mau Mau uprising.

96 posted on 04/12/2020 1:16:34 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: StoneRainbow68

I think he was accidentally shot by a secret service agent from behind. Best explanation why the head went forward.


97 posted on 04/12/2020 1:17:07 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: stuckincali

Steyn didn’t write this piece.


98 posted on 04/12/2020 1:46:30 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: stuckincali

I still believe Oswald acted alone.

If Castro did it, that would have been an act of war. Not even the USSR could have protected him.

If the Mafia did it, the entire Federal law enforcement arm would be down on their necks. Mafiosi were already running scared from RFK’s investigations.

The Soviets regarded JFK as both malleable & useful where he was and expressed deep sorrow at his death. They hated Oswald as an out of control extremist.

So, did LBJ back in 1960, sacrifice his powerful position as Senate majority leader for the powerless post of VP, just so he could hope that “someday that Kennedy boy’s gonna get shot and then I’ll just step right into the Presidency!!”?

Or even more fantastically, LBJ engineers Kennedy’s assassination, with the certainty of never getting caught?

Kinda doubt it. I’m a fan of Occam’s Razor.


99 posted on 04/12/2020 1:56:50 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I remember Jack Anderson on Art Bell promoting a career biography, which included the JFK assassination circus.

FWIW, Anderson said that the Castro brothers were tired of the Kennedy brothers trying to kill them, so Fidel baited the Mob to do it by “promising” to return seized casinos to Mob-operated status.


100 posted on 04/12/2020 2:27:30 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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