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Could that nasty crud you had last fall have been COVID-19?
Pinedale ^ | 4/11/2020 | editorial

Posted on 04/11/2020 11:55:44 AM PDT by george76

There has been speculation for weeks around the possibility that the COVID-19 virus hit the United States, and possibly Wyoming, weeks before previously thought, and many more people already have had it and don’t realize it, and those people are now immune. Right now this is just conjecture, but it is worth having the discussion.

Buckrail. posted an article on April 9th about a Jackson doctor who shares this belief and has been fairly outspoken about it. Every community seems to have their own local name for it, and in Jackson they call it "that awful JH crud" that was circulating back in December 2019 and in January. In Pinedale it is often called "the Pinedale crud." It included a terrible cough that just couldn’t be shaken and seemed to last for weeks, longer than usual. It was passed off as an upper respiratory infection. There was no test for it then.

Jackson Hole gets many international tourists, including many from China. Yellowstone National Park has three million visitors a year; Grand Teton Park over two million. All the park gateway communities, including Pinedale, see a fraction of those visitors each summer.

The implications, the article says, are crucial. It means this virus may have already started working its way through Wyoming weeks to months earlier than thought and there might already be some herd immunity to it in Wyoming. The answer won’t be known until there is a test for antibodies in the blood. So it is still very important to continue all the current directives for hand washing, social distancing, and keeping sick people away from vulnerable populations.

Right now this is just a theory, but it is definitely something to think about if you are one of the ones who got awfully sick in the November/December/January timeframe last fall and are still alive today to talk about it. Once tested for antibodies, if positive, those people could immediately go back to work and our economy could get moving a whole lot faster than what was earlier thought. The people who haven’t had it could continue to self-isolate by choice, rather than by state shut-down directive, until there is either a vaccine (which may take at least a year or more) or drugs that can minimize the impacts of the effects of getting the virus.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: china; covid19; crud; disease; flu; kungflu; pneumonia; virus; wuhan; wyoming
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To: cherry

Interesting...that’s consistent with COVID attacking hemoglobin. No SOB, just low sat.


81 posted on 04/11/2020 1:41:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: exDemMom

“The first Covid-19 case occurred in China on Nov 17, 2019”

You really trust the Chinese to be honest?


82 posted on 04/11/2020 1:43:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: george76
We believe our daughter, our Son-in-law and our Granddaughter had it.   They had a really bad flu that lingered on and on.   They live in State College, PA which is the small town that grew up around Penn State.   Penn State, with a massive buildup of Chinese students since the infamous scandal.   This is from one of their local news sites dated Apr 25, 2015.
Penn State sees influx of students from China. For more than a decade Penn State has worked to bring in more and more students from China. The results have been dramatic. The 2,411 Chinese students make up 5.2 percent of the campus's total undergraduate and graduate enrollment, based on last fall's numbers.
How many of those students travelled home around Chinese New Year and brought back the virus?
83 posted on 04/11/2020 1:45:35 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: george76

The only nasty crud I’ve experienced has been the evil spread by the Democrats for the past 4 years.


84 posted on 04/11/2020 1:46:00 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: george76

I had flu/strep/ ear infection all at once in January, followed by some sort of respiratory nastiness that lasted 2 weeks and petered out with one big loogie every morning for a few days. Not sure what it was, but it ran its course and Ive been fine since. I wonder, but I am not going near people who are being tested cause I dont want it if I haven’t had it.


85 posted on 04/11/2020 1:50:53 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: Vermont Lt
But what these people are all describing is an upper respiratory infection... If they ALL got it, and none of them died...it wasn’t COVID. Simple math proves that not to be the case.

Ummmm. But many people did die of "flu-like" symptoms in the fall. They're just not talking about it now, because, well, they're dead.

86 posted on 04/11/2020 1:51:03 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: george76

I had an upper respiratory infection at the beginning of March, hacking cough, inflamed throat, went to the doctor a week into it for a routine blood pressure appointment, he said not the flu but seemed nervous around me, I self-isolated for two weeks when it started, then the coronavirus hit the country and everyone had to self-isolate. I’m a religious person and I wonder if the Lord took me out of public life to protect me from something worse.


87 posted on 04/11/2020 1:52:15 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: Vermont Lt
If they ALL got it, and none of them died...it wasn’t COVID. Simple math proves that not to be the case.

You're to funny!   Haven't you ever heard that "Dead Men Tell No Tales?"

88 posted on 04/11/2020 1:54:23 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: norcal joe

See https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-signs-suggest-coronavirus-was-in-california-far-earlier-than-anyone-knew/ar-BB12ukLf

Posted here:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3834155/posts


89 posted on 04/11/2020 1:55:02 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: george76

As I said before: my girlfriend and her son both had this “crud” last two weeks of November.

It was so bad docs suspected pneumonia but BOTH test negative for pneumonia and flu.

Cough, fever for 3 or 4 days, malaise and then crud for two weeks.

Good thing is that if they DID have it I must be immune :)


90 posted on 04/11/2020 1:58:03 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gays can give blood but I can't)
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To: george76

I was sick in early January for almost two weeks. I am never sick that long.

Who knows what it was, but I hope to take the Antibody Test so I can find out if I was one of the Walking Dead.


91 posted on 04/11/2020 1:58:58 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yup. Us too. Give us the antibody test!!


92 posted on 04/11/2020 2:03:46 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gays can give blood but I can't)
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To: cherry

Since most of my meds are drying agents, the Cornea doc said I had to give up some.. well most where for serious conditions I’ve Gastropresis slow digestion, only thing that eases the pain is Lomotil as it is 2 mg pain med. Diazide is for fluid around Enlarged heart. So the Claratin and Flonase had to go. Every time they take me off the allergy med I get a month’s of Horrid Bronchitis. Her Restasis stung, 1 singlet caused a eye infection. Of course over the weekend when Ophthalmologist isn’t in, nor did she tell me the Meibomian glands were clogged. All 4 tear ducts are permanently closed.


93 posted on 04/11/2020 2:43:23 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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To: george76

There is now way to know unless a large selection of the population is tested for antibodies.


94 posted on 04/11/2020 2:46:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: DannyTN

Something went around hereabouts in February. Many people got “uncomfortable”. Few missed any work because of it. People had “dry coughs” for a day and low grade fevers, some had “bad stomach” for a few hours. Now the Communist Flu is in the county but it is increasing in incidence only slowly. A family who were in WuHan came back home here in January.


95 posted on 04/11/2020 2:55:35 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe cot)
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To: Greenpees

i’m guessing it started in wuhan just started. before mid december


96 posted on 04/11/2020 2:58:54 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: george76

For later read.


97 posted on 04/11/2020 3:07:12 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Sick and tired of the WuHu Flu Blues.)
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To: george76

Yup.
Back in about the first week of October I had a runny nose and a few body aches.
Trouble was, it ran like a river and DID NOT STOP !! for about three weeks.
Then I’m literally sittin here Halloween night thinking poor kids better not come around here or they’ll catch a doozy of a bug!
It broke the next day. Fever, headaches, coughed up a river of this green goop, couldn’t eat or sleep for about six days, then it was gone.
True story.


98 posted on 04/11/2020 3:08:20 PM PDT by djf (Better to be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead!)
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To: george76

I had chills, fatigue and the cough. I do smoke but this was different back in december. I’m over 60 and was doing sweat shop work near Nashville. Cough lasted a month. Pretty sure that was it.


100 posted on 04/11/2020 3:31:19 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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