Posted on 04/06/2020 11:23:41 AM PDT by nwrep
Americas major medical society specializing in the treatment of respiratory diseases has endorsed using hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill hospitalized coronavirus patients.
The American Thoracic Society issued guidelines Monday that suggest COVID-19 patients with pneumonia get doses of the anti-malaria drug.
To prescribe hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) to hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia if all of the following apply: a) shared decision-making is possible, b) data can be collected for interim comparisons of patients who received hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) versus those who did not, c) the illness is sufficiently severe to warrant investigational therapy, and d) the drug is not in short supply, the Thoracic Society said.
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Not necessarily deliberately withholding. They could do a retrospective study with that information and compare with people who did not get HCQ. Maybe case-matched - obtain sufficient numbers of non-HCQ patients and match them with HCQ-treated so that the average ages, BMI, comorbid conditions, etc. are similar to be able to compare.
One problem is that using different time periods could confound the results. HCQ treated patients this week could be much different than non-HCQ patients 1 month ago, because the flu and a dozen other respiratory viruses were in greater circulation before social distancing started (someone can have more than one, they could kill too, and having another infection isn’t going to help with COVID).
Ask your doctor, but I would think quercetin and green tea extract plus zinc would be a good alternative.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4863266/
https://www.rightnowmn.org/combating_covid_19_with_zinc_and_quercetin
COVID-19 Had Us All Fooled, But Now We Might Have Finally Found Its Secret!!
Wow!!!
Thank you.
Super interesting.
I don’t fully understand all of it, but the “oxidative iron” stuff fits with the theory about why adrenochrome addicts are susceptible.
“Eat oysters.”
Ahh, yet another reason. I can’t wait til restaurants re-open.
If Trump had said, “Don’t use this drug!” these irrational people would be criticizing him for not considering an effective cure.
Thank you rx!! Keep ‘em coming!!
220 mg per day. That much is only useful if you can also get HCQ or another zinc ionophore.
Sorry I misunderstood your question. No I don't. 50/100 mg sounds like a good guess.
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The drug needs to be administered as early as possible.
[[[Did anyone just watch that jackwad doctor on Danas show a few minutes ago.]]]
An absolute moron shill. Look over his investments.
[[[I see a lot of talk about hydroxychloroquine but very little talk about the azithromycin thats supposed to go with it as a treatment.]]]
Or zinc. It appears some doctors are only using it for the immunomodulating affect not the virus disruption.
and zinc
That’s why we call him Dr. Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX0Hi7fZxZ0
In a particularly, at least for the physicians here on FR, obtuse article about SARS-CCP’s effects on “lungs”... clearly shows that many in the clinical field are not up to date on the SARS’ CoV2 genetics.
The RNA from the virus gets into ANY cells (but inhaled into the lungs it first hits lung alveoli cells lining lobes of the lung, which have a thin cellular boundary very near to microvascular blood vessels so Oxygen can get to the red blood cells to be carried in the blood to the heart and all organs. Oxygen from air is transported chemically to each blood cell— attached to heme molecule.
The receptor site on both the lung cells and the blood cells is the Angiotensin Converting Enzyme 2 receptor. This receptor is HOW the RNA from SARS-CCP virus gets INTO the cell, where it inactivates the genetics of the cell— in the case of a red blood cell— the heme unit molecule, thus preventing the red blood cell taking up oxygen. The virus blocks the genetics.
When suicides use carbon monoxide the CO molecule out competes with oxygen to attach to a red blood cell and prevent oxygen from getting to the body. And these post mortems dead folks look... rosy cheeked red. Their blood oxygen non-existent in levels to sustain life.
Anti-malarial chloroquine drugs have action on the ACE2 receptors on lung cells and red blood cells— the entry point for the virus RNA.
Secondarily— since the CCP virus hits blacks very well— one wonders if these same vulnerable blacks do not have sickle cell genetics in their African ancestry (which is genetically preserved over centuries because sickle cell is protective against malaria!).
Here is a piece from MedCram which is earlier in our learning curve— that explains the ACE2 receptor. Bluntly— taking a Losartan/Cozaar or similar for blood pressure treatment can be (in this ACE2 theory which is being borne out through the anecdotal success of the chloroquine/AZT/Zinc combo treatment). Here, 18 mins long and from 16th of March:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vZDVbqRhyM
***We need to KNOW AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE the best estimate on the total number of CV INFECTIONS IN THE USA.
This flu season: 39 million INFECTIONS, 400K hospitalizations, and 24K deaths from the flu. Fatalities as a % of those infected from the flu = 0.06%.
Current USA CV stats: 400K positive tests, 12.8K deaths. BUT WHAT ARE THE NUMBER OF CV INFECTIONS IN THE US? It is in the MILLIONS but is it 5 million? 50 million? We dont know yet but need to find out ASAP.
BOTTOM LINE IS, THE FATALITIES AS A % OF THOSE INFECTED WITH CV WILL BE MUCH LOWER THAN THE FATALITIES AS A % OF THOSE TESTING POSITIVE WITH CV. We know this because there are a large number of asymptomatic people with CV who have shown no symptoms or were sick for a day or two and recovered.
If the CV fatalities as a % of those infected is as low as we suspect (0.1 to 0.2%) then the CV SPREADS MORE RAPIDLY than was estimated and is LESS LETHAL than we thought (as H1N1 was in 2009-2010). America can then quit this media-driven panic and get back to work. The health of the US economy is at stake. We need ANTIBODY tests done on sample populations as quickly as possible to get this data.
90% of those who have died from CV are over the age of 75 and have pre-existing conditions.
The combination of Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc has been working with thousands of patients worldwide.
God bless you and your families.
Azithromycin is not recommended for use with blood thinners such as Warfarin/Coumadin. For that reason, I was switched to Clindamycin when I needed an antibiotic.
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