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Acting Navy secretary 'had no discussions' with White House prior to firing Crozier: report
https://www.foxnews.com/health/acting-navy-secretary-had-no-discussions-white-house-before-firing ^ | April 06 2020 | David Aaro

Posted on 04/06/2020 4:51:49 AM PDT by knighthawk

Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said he “had no discussions with anyone at the White House prior to making the decision” to relieve Capt. Brett Crozier, according to a report on Sunday.

Navy sources had said that Modly told a colleague President Trump wanted Crozier fired. Modly told the Washington Post that he wanted to make the move before Trump ordered the captain out.

“I didn’t want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene because the Navy couldn’t be decisive,” Modly said, according to the paper.

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To: Chainmail

The Navy Seal was doing the job you expect a Navy Seal to do. This CO did not “fight” his ship.


21 posted on 04/06/2020 5:22:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

As we say in the business world: “One bad performance will screw up a lifetime of ‘Atta boys!’”


22 posted on 04/06/2020 5:23:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: knighthawk

I assume that this 1 of many ships affected and his public announcement of his ships condition puts entire navy at risk of attack.


23 posted on 04/06/2020 5:23:43 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: knighthawk

Probably not a good idea to visit a port in Asia when there is a global pandemic that started in Asia. If he was worry about his crew he would have ruled out visiting a port in Vietnam. The Navy does not like senior officers that show poor judgement.


24 posted on 04/06/2020 5:26:23 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: gasport
Broadly revealing status of combat readiness is not a good idea.

Yup. Loose Lips Sink Ships.


25 posted on 04/06/2020 5:27:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: babble-on

I haven’t followed it as closely as some, but I heard he jumped the chain of command.

If true, it is one thing to have attempted to engage your immediate superiors (better have solid documentation) with no result before you go above their heads, and quite another thing to have just jumped them.

If that is the case that he just jumped them, that is a fireable offense right there.

And rightly so, IMO.


26 posted on 04/06/2020 5:29:09 AM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: Raycpa

Apparently, if you’ll read the letter, you’ll find it “thoughtful” and justified.

Perhaps if Eddie Slovik had only sent his concerns to the media....


27 posted on 04/06/2020 5:30:32 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: jpsb

opps worried not worry
we need an edit function.


28 posted on 04/06/2020 5:32:03 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: rlmorel

I understand his superiors were already acting on the coronavirus on ship so he would have to be aware of that as Captain. This sounds to me like he went rouge and acted on his own.


29 posted on 04/06/2020 5:38:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: rlmorel
I heard he jumped the chain of command.

There is a lot less to that than meets the eye. As carrier CO he has lots of chains of command, including direct lines of communication to CINPACFLT and SECNAV, as Modley states.

Yeah, he should have been talking to his boss down the hall, absolutely. In part that should have been happening as part of his job as CO to talk to everyone on his ship from the guy swabbing the deck to his CPOs to his department heads to get ideas and develop plans for dealing with the problem. Sure he is in command and ultimately the buck stops with him, but no competent CO makes it through a day in command without relying on the input and initiative of his trusted subordinates. On a well run ship everyone does his job without being told and fills in where things need filling in without being told.

It's a team like every other effective team.

30 posted on 04/06/2020 5:42:04 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Chainmail
and didn't contain anything classified

This is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier with special weapons aboard. I beg to differ with you. The force status especially this type of condition would be highly classified. He blew it big time. He did not even take this to the Task Force Admiral aboard his own ship! He went EMOTIONAL when he was supposed to go TACTICAL!

31 posted on 04/06/2020 5:45:40 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Chainmail

I’m a retired Navy captain (Surface Warfare Officer). I fully believe he had the best interests of his crew at heart. I also believe he knew he was putting his career in jeopardy by sending that letter, and skipping his chain of command. He had to know he could be fired for sending it, but he did it anyway, because he felt it was the only way to help his people.
I think he deserved to be relieved, and I believe he expected nothing less.


32 posted on 04/06/2020 5:45:44 AM PDT by JHL
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To: knighthawk

Isn’t someone from a submarine in prison for just sending a picture of a console?


33 posted on 04/06/2020 5:46:09 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: knighthawk

What if the Chicoms released this story? What if they are at war with Trump for his policies towards them. The virus could be a big FU to Donald, see what we can do? They need to be stopped.


34 posted on 04/06/2020 5:48:11 AM PDT by databoss
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Also they stopped in Vietnam during a pandemic and let 1k people off the ship.


35 posted on 04/06/2020 5:54:11 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Dusty Road
“ I’m not going to comment until I hear the whole story, which seems to be missing.” ****** Well, a few things have already come out. Crozier did not discuss his memo with his superiors prior to hitting the Send key even though his immediate supervisor was on board in the cabin next to his. He (Crozier) used an external personal email system and email address outside of the Secure ship system. And, he sent his lengthy email to approximately twenty people. And, his email very quickly found itself in the hands of some at the San Francisco Bee. And, virtually all of the recipients reside in the San Francisco area. So, now I’m going to speculate. It’s my guess the good skipper is a liberal Trump Hater. And, his hatred overcame his better judgment. Hence, his unauthorized email. Consequently, imo he deserved to be relieved of his command. About the sailors cheering him as he departed the ship; per reports there were a few hundred cheering. Hardly a majority of the four thousand crew. My two bits 🥴
36 posted on 04/06/2020 6:05:38 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Avalon Memories

There is another story going around is that the Navy didn’t want to make a decision. Knowing of the current Navy leadership, I can believe it. Remember it’s never a Navy Admiral’s fault, it’s always the Captain that takes the fall. For example, the two Destroyers that ran into tankers a couple of years ago.


37 posted on 04/06/2020 6:11:55 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: snoringbear

And after doing a little reading I now have an opinion, he should be removed from command, that’s not the way it’s done in the military.


38 posted on 04/06/2020 6:12:11 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: knighthawk

The media plays gotcha, blame, etc. Too bad here the Navy did the right thing and left Trump out of it.


39 posted on 04/06/2020 6:13:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: knighthawk

SecNav doing the job the President has given him to do. Trump has enough on his plate to deal with. This is pretty clear cut insubordination and leaking sensitive information about the combat readiness of one of the nation’s most powerful assets.


40 posted on 04/06/2020 6:19:43 AM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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