Posted on 04/06/2020 4:51:49 AM PDT by knighthawk
Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said he “had no discussions with anyone at the White House prior to making the decision” to relieve Capt. Brett Crozier, according to a report on Sunday.
Navy sources had said that Modly told a colleague President Trump wanted Crozier fired. Modly told the Washington Post that he wanted to make the move before Trump ordered the captain out.
“I didn’t want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene because the Navy couldn’t be decisive,” Modly said, according to the paper.
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Anyone who knows more about the military than I do want to comment on this affair?
Was Crozier insubordinate? Did he have justification to be? What’s the line here? I’m genuinely curious to see military, especially Navy, perspectives on this one. I don’t know enough about it.
I’m not going to comment until I hear the whole story, which seems to be missing.
Why is SecNav relieving a boat commander? Where is the rest of the chain of command? AWOL it seems.
He sent his letter to the Press going outside the Chain of Command from what I understand.
That is why he was relieved.
You don’t have that right in the military.
Was he insubordinate? He was pushing it. You’re supposed to go thru the chain of command. Instead, whether knowingly or unknowingly (which is inconceivable), he put them in a spot.
First and foremost, HE WASN’T FIRED!. He was relieved of command. He is still in the Navy. Can’t the media get anything right or honest? Secondly, I’m former Navy and yes, he was insubordinate and had no justification to be so. His immediate superior officer, the commander of that Task Force, resides on the carrier. Crozier never communicated the concerns dramatically mentioned in his letter to the Admiral. Crozier never communicated the concerns in that letter up through the chain of command. The Navy was already addressing the virus situation aboard that ship. Crozier clearly is a drama queen who probably is ‘loved’ by his crew precisely because he did not run a taut, disciplined ship. He is an embarrassment. A joke of a captain.
Broadly revealing status of combat readiness is not a good idea.
He broke the chain of command and blabbed to the media about the sick on the ship. This is giving the enemy intelligence about deployed ships.
He deserves to be in prison.
First thing an officer is supposed to learn is not to let the enemy know your strength or lack of it.
Insubordination and not following the chain of command are not his sins here, though they may be contributing factors justifying his removal. His sin was not taking the initiative as Commanding Officer of the TR to use the immense resources under his command to do everything he could to address the problem himself. Instead he sounded “abandon ship.”
The letter from the Acting SECNAV, the guy who fired him, is here.
https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=112537
The next up in the chain of command above the Captain was on the ship with him - who’s cabin was just a couple of doors down from the Captain’s.
Read what Modly wrote about this....enlightening.
It’s like the difference between General McClellan and General Grant. One dithered and complained. The other just got stuff done.
That does make sense.
It assumes that he was the one who leaked the letter, but who else had a reason to do so? And in doing so he divided the sailors on the ship from the leadership of the Navy, who also claim they were working hard to address the problems he brought to him already when the letter leaked.
The next up in the chain of command above the Captain was on the ship with him - who’s cabin was just a couple of doors down from the Captain’s.
I read that. He needs to go, too. I’m tired of the military brass punting tough decisions in the Age of Trump. They certainly had no problem carrying water for Obama.
I'm of the opinion that Capt. Crozier did the best he could for his sailors in a very tough and fast-moving situation. The navy may claim that they were "moving quickly to help" the Roosevelt but the timeline doesn't support that contention. I've read Captain Crozier's letter and it was thoughtful, respectful and didn't contain anything classified - but it was meant to get the navy's attention.
I wish President Trump would intervene to reinstate Capt. Crozier as he did for the that Navy SEAL - and fire that "acting" Navy Secretary.
Chain of command rules the day he overstepped his bounds and stepped on a higher-ups toes, your fired!
I don't know why folks can't get this through their heads. He was not written up for violating uniform regs or something. His superiors lost confidence in his ability to command a major warship. It's a very different standard. From what I have seen I don't think much of his ability to command, but the guy is clearly a fine officer who devoted a career to the Navy. He wouldn't have been an F/A-18 pilot AND a Navy nuclear trained officer while being a total screwup. He just shouldn't have been in command of a Naval warship. Most people on this planet shouldn't, including most serving officers in the US Navy.
OK, Navy guys, you tell me. Is the word for the "scuttlebutt"?
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