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Dr Anthony Fauci Backtracks on Deadliness of Virus
OAN ^ | 3/27/2020 | OAN.com

Posted on 03/28/2020 5:43:14 AM PDT by jazminerose

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To: jazminerose

False ...Outdated information

The recently published article used comments made by Dr. Fouci back in February. Back then Dr. Fouci was sort of dismissive of Coronavirus.

On March 11, Dr. Fouci testified to Congress that Coronavirus is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

Coronavirus Is 10 Times More Lethal Than Seasonal Flu, Fauci Says

61 posted on 03/28/2020 6:41:16 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: FlipWilson

No, nobody with a 3 digit IQ believes China or Iran.

That’s not the point.

The graphs just show officially reported numbers.

Everybody knows to ignore China’s numbers, but it’s not for the graphologist to insert any political, national or other bias.

All the graphologist is doing is reporting the numbers. China’s numbers are not in any way averaged into overall numbers. Each national trajectory is its own.

It’s a shame this has to be explained to you.


62 posted on 03/28/2020 6:45:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jazminerose
SORRY BUT THIS REALLY IS FAKE NEWS.

Which is a bummer because it got my hopes up.

The article the author is citing where Fauci said it may not be much worse than the flu was published on Feb 28, two weeks BEFORE his comments speculating that it might be 10 times worse than the flu.

The author either got mixed up on the dates or is deliberately publishing falsehoods.


63 posted on 03/28/2020 6:47:57 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: BobL

“Interesting that China locked in 60 million people over...”

...over the anti-communist protests. The communists in China had growing protests throughout China.

So, no, they didn’t lock people in their homes over a virus. The locked people in their homes over the protests.


64 posted on 03/28/2020 6:48:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: hardspunned

Don’t conflate the with-lockdown UK numbers with the run-amok numbers for the US.

Absolute numbers don’t matter. FluBros let this horror loose on the whole nation, now. You guys couldn’t just sit home for a few weeks.

With less than 1% of the nation exposed, CCP-19 daily deaths have surpassed flu in-season daily deaths, even using the highest CDC estimates.

And I don’t think it can be stopped with the limited containment effort in place - the restrictions you are so upset about are going to get much harsher and this thing will *still* humble the lowly flu.

If the death count from this stays to a 5 or low 6 digit number, no doubt you will all celebrate being “right”, ignoring the fact that it was because of the things you opposed. It will be in spite of you, not because you were right.


65 posted on 03/28/2020 6:49:52 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: BobL

I have no idea what tangent you’re off on now but that “not coming back market” just had it’s greatest weekly gain since 1938.


66 posted on 03/28/2020 6:49:53 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: jazminerose

So, will POTUS now insist that all states and counties return to work, beginning this Monday? Put an end to any talk of any further stimulus or ‘relief’?

Will Fauci now be fired from the Wuhan China Flu task force team?

Will VP Pence immediately put down that 15 day sign?


67 posted on 03/28/2020 6:50:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent charts


68 posted on 03/28/2020 6:51:37 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: Travis McGee

Got a map for just the flu deaths?


69 posted on 03/28/2020 6:52:19 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: hardspunned; BobL

...that “not coming back market” just had it’s greatest weekly gain since 1938...

= = =

Bear market rally?


70 posted on 03/28/2020 6:53:08 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: jazminerose

Again with this F ing Bull#$%! That editorial was published in February! I got egg all over my face when someone else posted this yesterday and used the word “Concede” in the headlines. Fauci has conceded NOTHING. This was back in February!


71 posted on 03/28/2020 6:53:49 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: calenel
No...but China doesn't car in the least about the feelings or rights of its people, so they'd balance public interest and private rights differently than we do.

I am not saying our reaction to this is definitely over the top. I'm saying that the self-justifying argument of "if governments are doing it, it must be correct" is bogus. That's the same logic used by global warming alarmists. "if we're all saying it, it must be true."

Alarmism can take on a life of its own. Whether that ends up being the case here is something we don't yet know.

72 posted on 03/28/2020 6:56:56 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Libloather

I could probably find any number of things that have a similar age distribution. Diabetes, perhaps.

You are probably shaped like a pear. Are you a pear?

Lions are shaped like house cats. Would you keep a lion in your house? From what I’ve heard that usually ends badly.

Even if it were “the flu” it would overwhelm our HCS in short order if allowed to roam free.

But if you are so convinced it’s “the flu” perhaps you should go volunteer at one of the hospitals. They are begging for help.


73 posted on 03/28/2020 6:57:49 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Travis McGee

Nice avoidance!!

It addresses none, not one point I raised and instead is as hominem.

1) I love nice pictures as well. But the real issue here is what we were told and what the graphs you posted show. My premise is that we were driven to panic by forecasts. I would like to see how those forecasts compare em the actual data. It is HIGHLY relevant. We were promised the second great plague, let’s see it.

2) without context your charts are irrelevant. Is this virus more than the flu, I believe it is. But again, given the ultra extreme measures this nation took it better be more than just ten orders of magnitude worse than the flu. Ok, how about one order of magnitude worse than H1N1?

3) Might it be? Yes and no. That is the thing, until the data is more complete than what we know today we won’t be able to make that assessment.

4) Where are the comparable charts and color graphs for H1N1? Wouldn’t they be relevant vis-a-vis gauging the level of reaction here?

5) Without proper context you have posted data that shows: 1) diseases spread over time and 2) as they spread mortality rates increase.

6) With your charts come words at the top that say the spread is worse than China. And that is where your data falls apart. Your data and the premise it purports to prove comprises trusting that we are getting the real numbers from China. I am sorry but how can we trust data from a country that gives nobody access to it and tried to cover this up in the first place.

I could put “Pigs Fly” as my premise and back it up with fancy charts that include numbers gathered from interviews with flying pigs. It would look nice but it wouldn’t be true.


74 posted on 03/28/2020 6:57:51 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: jazminerose; From The Deer Stand; BobL; MNJohnnie; Libloather; Madam Theophilus; PIF; ...

SORRY BUT THIS REALLY IS FAKE NEWS.
Which is a bummer because it got my hopes up.

The article the author is citing where Fauci said it may not be much worse than the flu was published on Feb 28, two weeks BEFORE his comments speculating that it might be 10 times worse than the flu.

The author either got mixed up on the dates or is deliberately publishing falsehoods.

Evidence for the latter:

” Fauci conceded COVID-19’s death rate was twice that of the common flu, making it roughly 0.28 percent”

Neither “twice” not .28 appear anywhere in the NEJM article. The author may have mixed up the dates by accident but I don’t see how he could have invented those statistics by accident.


75 posted on 03/28/2020 7:00:56 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: BobL

Losses only if you didn’t drive the panic and capitalize on it:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-bill-ackman-hedge-fund-coronavirus

Losses are for the little people.


76 posted on 03/28/2020 7:01:19 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: calenel

If, when, will, think. I call BS. When there are 30,000 Wuhan flu deaths in the US expect me to be as concerned as I am about the flu. How many more trillions do you want to see American families have pissed away over this? How many millions unemployed, how many thousands of permanently closed businesses, how many more trillions in debt, how much more of our constitution destroyed? But, but, the sick, feeble octogenarians...destroy the country and millions more families for the media/dem narrative you parrot.


77 posted on 03/28/2020 7:02:29 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: jazminerose

Trump must insist the WHO. Must be substantially reformed or eliminated.

ino more BS from this and certainly don’t give it money until it is reformed


78 posted on 03/28/2020 7:03:30 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: CodeToad

So they locked people in their homes in Wuhan over protests in HK, tore up the roads in Wuhan over protests in HK, cordoned off Wuhan over protests in HK.

Sure, that makes sense.

I suppose they were roasting marshmallows in all those crematoriums in Wuhan over protests in HK, too.

To stop the riots on the bridges by people trying to leave Hubei and the people outside of Hubei trying to stop them, well, maybe they’ll try and cordon off Shanghai this time.


79 posted on 03/28/2020 7:04:13 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: CodeToad

I think this is the root cause here, the protests.

The chicoms had lost control of the protests in Hong Kong.
After c-19 was released, the protests stopped. Also, the Chicoms got their ass handed to them in President Trump’s trade deal. I think this was a dual purpose release.
1. Stop internal dissent.
2. Slap back at the west economically.


80 posted on 03/28/2020 7:04:31 AM PDT by Texas resident (The American media is our enemy)
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