Posted on 03/11/2020 6:53:12 AM PDT by Fury
FWIW, osha is a weed growing in the American SW. Those with wildcrafting skills interested in herbalism could collect their own. Then again, those in the SW have the climate that tends to inhibit the spread in the first place.
Oscillococcinum active ingredient is duck hearts and livers. Those that are interested in this substance that also have a palate that allows such things might just make a habit of giblet based suppers until this blows over.
Yes. ACE2 receptor expression in lung tissue. From the tissue studies I have seen the top two highest expression ancestries for ACE2 lung tissue receptors are 1) Japanese 2) Han Chinese. Way at the bottom are African Black ancestry and a rung up are Northern European ancestry. The difference is large. 3 to 4 times higher expression in the lung tissue in East Asian ancestry.
This virus binds to ACE2 to break through the cell walls and get into cells to infect them. Lower ACE2, and less chance of getting it if exposed and if you get it less cells infected so less severe or so go the theories.
I can not vouch for the studies nor theory, but this is out there.
Good info thank you. This is what’s needed.
As well as based on what is likely a risk-averse personality who is in a very public spotlight. Better to err on the side of caution, eh?
WH is saying the meeting at WH is not an emergency but previously scheduled, but doctor/witness staff said they were unaware of schedule.
Maloney is going to recess hearing, wants to reconvene at 2 pm. She doesn;t want to ear any facts about whether or not the WH meeting was scheduled.
Congress is determined to elevate the panic.
They are all going to be sent out looking for the horses that left the barn over four weeks ago.
If you see them please call the CDC.
That is all.
WT*?
Ok, virus expert. How do the vaccine developers get around the rigorous testing needed to make sure the vaccine doesn’t cause more problems than it solves? This is VERY tricky business.
An observation: The more pressure (or allowance) from the gov’t to cut corners, the more likely the virus is a serious problem.
So it is the flu?
And who knows what other **** will be hidden in a bill that nobody will have time to read. But the media has underestimated Trump before.
What’s the title of that scene from hell? I dropped Art History back in the day...
The answer to your question is the flu.
Balancing that, in China, we don’t know how many had it and were never tested / turned away / welded in their apartments / burned alive.
Yes, literally.
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Correct. In fact the only thing we do know about this virus is from other countries who we can probably trust as far as how many died. But the great unknown is how many catch it and either never know it or have such mild symptoms they never get treatment and simply self medicate.
When S Korea, Italy France start to see slowing perhaps then we can get some sort of a handle on the actual death rate although without knowing the unknowable i.e. total number contracting the disease we will NEVER know.
This is why I call major BS at all these morons pretending to know. It is all politics at this point...all of it.
This cleavage site is NOT found in other bat corona viruses. But it *is* found in Ebola and AIDS.
One of the researchers at the Chinese BL-4 lab in Wuhan, had been publishing work in Nature in 2015, about "addition of function" studies on bat coronaviruses.
And IIRC, back in November, the Wuhan center had been advertising for postdocs to do research on how coronaviruses could hide from the immune system. (From memory).
I think I posted links to these things around a month ago. Seems like forever though.
Saw this post and happen to have some information. I am unsure of what the % effected represents but I do know that ACE2 cells are what the virus uses to enter human cells and replicate. To learn about this, check out this Medcram video.(Skip to 3:22)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT3_A1bf9pU
Here is the info posted from 1000 Genomes Project. They have identified,
“Average of six genetic variants associated with higher ratios of ACE2 cells: RS233575 (A), rs714205 (G), rs198124 (C), rs879922 (G), rs2048683 (G), rs1877752 (C)”
POPULATION-————————————————% EFFECTED
Japanese in Tokyo, Japan———————————92%
Southern Han Chinese————————————92%
Kinh in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam-——————91%
Han Chinese in Beijing, China-————————90%
Chinese Dai in Xishuangnanna, China—————90%
Peruvians from Lima, Peru——————————78%
Bengali from Bangladesh-——————————77%
Sri Lanken Tamil from the UK-————————75%
Indian Telugu from the UK-—————————74%
Mexican Ancestry from Los Angeles USA———72%
Gujarati Indian from Houston Texas—————68%
Americans of African Ancestry in SW USA-——66%
Punjabi from Lahore, Pakistan-———————65%
African Caribbeans in Barbados———————64%
Luhya in Webye, Kenya-——————————63%
Mende in Sierra Leone———————————62%
Esan in Nigeria——————————————62%
British in England and Scotland-——————61%
Gambian in Western Divisions in the Gambia-61%
Puerto Ricans from Puerto Rico-——————60%
Colombians from Medellin, Colombia-———59%
Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria—————————57%
Finnish in Finland-————————————57%
Iberian Populations in Spain————————56%
Utah Residents with N. and W Euro ancestry—53%
Toscani in Italia-—————————————51%
Source: 1000 Genomes Project
I think everyone wants to hear certain things they want to know. However when they have these Corona updates news conferences it doesn’t help when the media cuts out half way through as they keep doing. All of them did so. Therefore we get half the information even though the team has answered the questions.
I’ve learned the White House site answers a lot.
If we *knew* the death rate was 0.1%, and the % needing hospitalization was similarly small, and equidistributed by age, we wouldn't have to worry about one subset of the population flooding the hospitals and overwhelming them (Same kind of applies to R0).
But it doesn't.
So the alarm ringers are trying to get people to be proactive individually, in order that the whole of society benefits. There's that chart of the two bell curves, one all bunched up, which overflows hospital capacity, one which spreads out in time, which peaks just below capacity.
The other thing is, lots of people see the pandemic as an OPPORTUNITY to advance their agendas. Like Never-Trumpers and Nancy Pelosi.
And then you have all the Iranian bigwigs getting it, and the head of Hezbollah, too.
IT IS THE F’N FLU!!!
So it is the flu?
Yes it is a new version of the flu. The panic mongers are screeching the sky is gonna fall because there are “unknowns” about it. But just because there are unknowns so far does not mean they won’t be “known’s at some point and it also doesn’t mean the unknowns will be Armageddon. You know at one point all of the now mundane A & B virus strains were also “unknowns” and look around, here we all are still alive.
go here
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
“Maybe someone has figured out what the term “exponential growth” means.”
i assume you know it’s actually grown “exponentially” in the U.S. because you fitted the few hundred data points here to a time curve, versus say fitting the same data to a geometrical growth line?
The other thing is, lots of people see the pandemic as an OPPORTUNITY to advance their agendas. Like Never-Trumpers and Nancy Pelosi.
And then you have all the Iranian bigwigs getting it, and the head of Hezbollah, too.
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Your first point is my main point.
Your second point is not important because my understanding is the AssH8le Iranians were licking walls or some such nonsense to prove (they thought) that Allah would protect them. It didn’t work out and I’m not concerned about dead Iranian gov’t types.
“Hopefully, your concise explanation of this horrid disease will (finally) be taken to heart, by many, here.”
Why?? So we can all panic and insist that Trump at least act like he is panicking so the rest of us will panic even more? What more can be done? Investors are panicking and people are losing some of their savings. Stores are being cleaned out of toilet paper because people are panicking. Maybe everything can be closed down to instill more panic. I don’t know. Maybe we could ask the media to spread more panicking headlines but they are already doing it as best they can.
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