Posted on 03/10/2020 4:59:42 AM PDT by Kaslin
"Fortress Europe is an illusion."
So declares the Financial Times in the closing line of its Saturday editorial: "Europe Cannot Ignore Syrian Migrant Crisis."
The FT undertakes to instruct the Old Continent on what its duty is and what its future holds: "The EU will face flows of migrants and asylum seekers across the Mediterranean for decades to come."
Can Europe not repel this unwanted home invasion from the Global South?
It is "delusional" to think so, says the FT. Europe must be realistic and set about "providing legal routes for migrants and asylum seekers."
What occasioned the editorial was Greece's rough resistance to Turkish President Erdogan's funneling of thousands of Syrian refugees, who had fled into Turkey, right up to the border with Greece.
Erdogan is threatening to inundate southeastern Europe with Syrian refugees to extract more money from the EU in return for keeping the 3.5 million Syrians already in Turkey away from EU frontiers.
Another Erdogan objective is to coerce Europe into backing his military intervention in Syria to prevent President Bashar Assad from capturing all of Idlib province and emerging victorious in his civil war.
In the human rights hellhole that is Syria today, we may see the dimensions of the disaster wrought when Wilsonian crusaders set out to depose the dictator Assad and make Syria safe for democracy.
A brief history.
When the Arab Spring erupted and protesters arose to oust Assad, the U.S., Turkey and the Gulf Arabs aided and equipped Syrian rebels willing to take up arms. The "good rebels," however, were routed and elements of al-Qaida soon assumed dominance of the resistance.
Facing defeat, Syria's president put out a call to his allies -- Russia, Iran, Hezbollah -- to save his regime. They responded, and Assad, over four years, recaptured all of Syria west of the Euphrates, save Idlib.
There, the latest fighting has pushed 900,000 more refugees to Turkey's southern border.
The 21st-century interventions and wars of the West in the Islamic world have not gone well.
George W. Bush was goaded into invading Iraq. Barack Obama was persuaded to overthrow Colonel Moammar Gadhafi in Libya and the Assad regime in Damascus. Obama ordered U.S. forces to assist Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in his war to crush Houthi rebels who had ousted Riyadh's resident puppet in Yemen.
And what has the West reaped from our Mideast wars?
In Syria and Yemen, we have helped to create two of the world's greatest human rights disasters. In Libya, we have a new civil war. In Iraq, we now battle Iran for influence inside a nation we "liberated" in 2003.
In Afghanistan, we have concluded a deal with our enemy of two decades, the Taliban, that will enable us to pull our 12,000 troops out of the country in 14 months and let our Afghan allies work it out, or fight it out, with the Taliban. America is washing its hands of its longest war.
In five wars over 20 years, we lost 7,000 soldiers with some 40,000 wounded. We plunged the wealth of an empire into these wars.
And what did these wars produce for the peoples we went to aid and uplift, besides hundreds of thousands of dead Afghans and Arabs and millions of people uprooted from their homes and driven into exile?
Now, Europe is being admonished by the FT that, having done its duty by plunging into the Mideast, the continent has a new moral duty to take in the refugees the wars created, for decades to come.
But if the EU opens its doors to an endless stream of Africans and Arabs, where is the evidence that European nations will accept and assimilate them?
Will these migrants and asylum seekers become good Europeans? Or will they create in the great cities of Europe enclaves that replicate the conditions in the African and Middle East countries whence they came?
The history of the last half millennium tells the story of the rise and fall of a civilization.
In the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, Spain, Britain, France and Portugal, and then Belgium, Italy, Germany and America, all believing in the superiority of their civilization, went out into the world to create empires to uplift and rule what Rudyard Kipling derisively called "the lesser breeds without the law."
After two world wars, the rulers of these empires embraced a liberalism that now proclaimed the equality of all peoples, races, creeds, cultures and civilizations. This egalitarian ideology mandated the dismantling of empires and colonies as the reactionary relics of a benighted time.
Now the peoples of the new nations, dissatisfied with what their liberated lands and rulers have produced, have decided to come to Europe to enjoy in the West what they cannot replicate at home. And liberalism, the ideology of Western suicide, dictates to Europe that it take them in -- for decades to come.
The colonizers of yesterday are becoming the colonized of tomorrow. Is this how the West ends?
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Now the peoples of the new nations, dissatisfied with what their liberated lands and rulers have produced, have decided to come to Europe to enjoy in the West what they cannot replicate at home”
Oh baby.
At some point we will have to de denuclearize the EU. We can’t let these medieval anti western animals have nukes.
Muslims is acurate. The entire middle East is on call to re-establish the caliphate. That was why we were attacked on 911. To the Muslims, it was a call to establish the caliphate and continue the invasion of Europe and the conquering of the world.
Muslims were staging incursions into Europe long before the Ottomans, perhaps most notably the Umayyads in Spain.
“With a whimper....”
See SWEDEN’S crime stats for anything and see now the future of the rest of Europe....MUSLINOPISTAN IS HERE !!
Two kinds of mindless savages are invading Europe at this time. One weakens the body, the other rapes, slashes, burns and kills.
France is governed by a man who is trying to reconcile civilized people and barbarian hordes, a recipe for failure.
Italy threw out the man who was saving it from the barbarian hordes: Matt Salvini.
Germany doesn’t know who the hell it is any more, and is welcoming the barbarian hordes.
Sweden is allowing its women to be raped by the barbarian hordes.
Greece is trying to keep the barbarian hordes from entering the country, and failing.
“ With a whimper....”
Yeh, they won’t pay their fair share to support NATO. They won’t even fund their own military. I say let’em twist in the wind.
You *do* realize this clown is blowing smoke, right?
The Muslims almost overran Vienna (yes, the real Vienna) *after* the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock.
They were driven off by John Sobieski of Poland.
On or about 9-11.
I agree completely with denuclearization of Europe.
In the face of people predicting one world government I have forecast that Europe would get this bad and provoke a genocidal massacre of unassimilated aliens followed by a collapse into smaller ultra-nationalist states.
We shall see. Antichrist rises or Muslims and other non European ethnic groups swept away in rivers of blood. My money has always been on the Rivers of Blood again because there can't be a one world government until God himself decides it is time.
You *do* realize this clown is blowing smoke, right?
The Muslims almost overran Vienna (yes, the real Vienna) *after* the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock.
They were driven off by John Sobieski of Poland.
On or about 9-11.
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Poland is the only EU country that has figures out how to deal with this invasion.
Erdogan is set to restore The Ottoman Empire and get revenge for The Battle of Vienna.
Every Muslim in Europe will support him.
Europe ended for most Europeans, ironically, when the EU was established.
The culture IS the hellhole...and yes, they will bring it with them...
Time to use tactical nukes to create a radioactive barrier to the Middle East, and strategic nukes on the major leadership centers.
Either fight back, or drop to your knees and bow your head to the Caliphate’s sword.
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“The destruction of European Civilization - by its own leaders - is one of the most extraordinary acts in all of Human History.”
-Hungarian Prime Minister, May 2018
A Bitter Truth. “... massive flows of refugees. It is true, whether we like it or not, that the West cannot possibly absorb even a small fraction of these refugees and survive. A stable and peaceful society is a fragile thing.”
Lucy, Europe is not the Lone Ranger. The leaders of the United States of America with the exception of President Trump and President Trump alone have been working to destroy the United States of America 24/7/365 for decades and even longer. And if not for the efforts of President Trump and President Trump alone would have been successful.
An excellent point I'd like to expand on if I might. What appears to be the case is that the Czechs don't want their country to be overrun, nor the Slovaks, Poles, Hungarians, or lately the Austrians and the Greeks. But nobody much is objecting to Europe as a whole being overrun, which argues both a failure of a collective European identity (that was one of the major aspirations of the EU) and a certain stubborn ideological faith either that Europe will be bettered by a forced demographic change or deserves it for past sins.
Certain Swedes, for example, have very publicly proclaimed that there is no Swedish culture. The level of denial necessary even to make such a statement reflects the degree to which zealots are willing to reject their own culture which they don't understand in favor of a foreign culture that is yet to be formed, a new culture which very obviously does not contain certain fond assumptions of which equal rights for women is merely the most blatant example. A new culture under a new demography is hardly likely to sustain old human rights assumptions, and if they won't be defended they won't exist.
Pat's not being honest here.
The FT piece says nothing about moral obligation - their argument's coldly pragmatic.
" But eventually the EU will have to reach a new deal. Geography creates its own imperatives. Turkey is Europe’s buffer to the Middle East, a region destined for long-term instability. It puts a huge responsibility on Ankara which the EU has an obligation to help bear.But hoping that Turkey’s grudging co-operation and the militarisation of the EU’s external frontiers can shut out migrants and refugees completely is delusional. The EU will face flows of migrants and asylum seekers across the Mediterranean for decades to come. It has to work closely with its neighbours — as Spain has with Morocco — to manage the problem while protecting human rights. That means co-operation on border enforcement while also providing legal routes for migrants and asylum seekers."
That's the problem with too many nationalist arguments. They pretend that the only reason we help/interact with the rest of the world is obligation, sympathy or political correctness. Each of which is pretty easy to argue against.
The real reason Europe needs to deal realistically with the migrant influx is long-term self interest.
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