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He was a rapist. Deal with it': Disney heiress Abigail Disney weighs in on Kobe Bryant's rape case past
Daily Mail ^ | 1-29-2020 | Leah Simpson

Posted on 01/29/2020 8:26:06 PM PST by ZagFan

Abigail Disney has weighed in on Kobe Bryant's controversial past, after actress Evan Rachel Wood and a Washington Post journalist were berated for tweeting about a rape allegation against him from 2003, just hours after his death in a helicopter crash Sunday.

Disney - whose grandfather Roy O. Disney co-founded The Walt Disney Company - tweeted: 'I haven't said anything about Kobe so far because I felt some time needed to pass before weighing in. But yes, it's time for the sledgehammer to come out. The man was a rapist. Deal with it.'

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To: Nateman

“He is dead. No need to bring something like this up even if true.”

WHAT?????????????

Bryant gets a free pass because he’s DEAD?

I suppose Biden gets a free pass for bribing a foreign country just because he’s running for president.


161 posted on 01/30/2020 7:59:08 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Secret Agent Man

So, only ONE violent rape (that we know of) is okay?


162 posted on 01/30/2020 8:01:06 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: lodi90

[Being a young celebrity who had endless groupies he was not able to control himself at that point.]


A lot of these showbiz and entertainment people are lying blowhards. When even Hugh Grant had to get serviced by some ugly slag in LA and Charlie Sheen dealt with hookers almost exclusively, you know that the star-!@#$ers who want a one-night stand without a quid pro quo Weinstein-style, you don’t want to touch with a ten-foot pole. He knew from the beginning she wasn’t interested, but thought he could use his star athlete status and skin color to get away with rape.


163 posted on 01/30/2020 8:02:11 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The man’s “race” had nothing to do with it. And I don’t idolize athletes or famous people. What I do is consider the whole story.


164 posted on 01/30/2020 8:03:01 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: bagster

Did you know that the DNA extracted from the accuser 15 hours after the alleged rape was DNA from another (unnamed) man?

Did you know that one of the prosecution’s witnesses was the accuser’s ex-boyfriend, and he refused DNA testing to find out if he was a match?

Did you know the prosecution’s other main witness was the bellman, who the accuser said she’d slept with a day or two before the alleged rape?

The rape allegations were not credible. He was guilty of adultery, not rape.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/docs-kobe-accuser-discussed-award-money

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-jul-24-sp-bryant24-story.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/LegalCenter/Story?id=647298&page=1


165 posted on 01/30/2020 8:06:46 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Zhang Fei

Hugh Grant and Dershowitz are not 20 something NBA stars. This woman literally delivered herself to Bryant. A total stranger. She wanted something from him and it wasn’t an autograph.


166 posted on 01/30/2020 8:07:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

[Hugh Grant and Dershowitz are not 20 something NBA stars. This woman literally delivered herself to Bryant. A total stranger. She wanted something from him and it wasn’t an autograph.]


Hugh Grant and Charlie Sheen are big time Hollywood stars. Kobe Bryant is an ugly git who got some attention because of his playing abilities. Take a look at black male athletes and showbiz figures sometime. How many of them end up with white women who look as good as the woman who was raped? She wasn’t in there for a roll in the hay - she was looking to get his autograph. Young women are naive in the ways of the world. That’s how so many of them end up raped by strange black men*. When they ask white men to stop, they generally do. With blacks, who knows? This young lady was less naive than some, but more naive than others.

* It’s been a while since I’ve looked up the stat, and Obama did yeoman’s work on hiding or disappearing FBI stats on interracial crime, so I’ll leave you with Ann Coulter’s observation: “The actual history of interracial rape - according to FBI statistics - is that, since the 70’s, approximately 15,000 to 36,000 white women have been raped by black men every year, while, on average, zero black women are raped by black men.”


167 posted on 01/30/2020 8:22:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

You know that the allegation was never made by either the accused or the police/DA, and that no physical evidence was ever reported that confirmed such abuse. So what do you call it when you know there is no basis in fact for something, but you claim it happened anyway? I call that lying.


168 posted on 01/30/2020 8:35:48 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ifinnegan

You must be a Democrat because you just make stuff up. Show me one post I’ve made idolizing Kobe. You won’t, because you can’t. You can’t even defend your lies so you change the topic to me, and post more things that have no basis in fact. I’d say you’re quite rational, because that’s all you can do since the facts are not on your side, and you simply won’t admit it.


169 posted on 01/30/2020 8:40:55 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

[You know that the allegation was never made by either the accused or the police/DA, and that no physical evidence was ever reported that confirmed such abuse. So what do you call it when you know there is no basis in fact for something, but you claim it happened anyway? I call that lying.]


You have a very Alice-in-Wonderland definition of lying, but that’s OK. It’s a free country.


170 posted on 01/30/2020 8:42:34 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Knowingly propagating false information is only lying in Wonderland?


171 posted on 01/30/2020 9:00:23 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MinorityRepublican
There’s a lot of evidence so that’s why Kobe paid his victim millions.

With whores and hookers, it's always about the money......Some are just paid more than others.

172 posted on 01/30/2020 9:03:49 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: ConservativeMind
One accuser.

Ask yourself this, why would a rich, handsome man like Kobe Bryant have to rape anyone. He had tons of beautiful and willing females throwing themselves at him. I never believed his accuser.

I think she had sex with him and then regretted it. I think that happens a lot, but that is not rape.

173 posted on 01/30/2020 9:14:27 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Tired of Taxes
He was guilty of adultery, not rape.

Did you know that the rapist Kobe Bryant paid this chick off in a civil suit?

Kobe Bryant was a rapist. Adultery is a lesser and included offense.

Why are you defending a rapist?


174 posted on 01/30/2020 9:21:53 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Why do you assume to know what happened

You don’t

And you don’t mention all the facts

Just droning Kobe is a racist doesn’t prove jack

There is a lot of bullshit circling this case from jump street

To most reasonable people

It looks like a consensual sex act that got out of hand for her because he was boorish and inconsiderate ....like I said days ago he likely saw too much black guys demolish white girls porn

Trust me on this...many black guys think white girls just absolutely crave them in today’s culture

It’s not an excuse for them to be an asshole sexually but it does influence many black men

Blonde has to have it and will freak all you can handle unlike sista who is a figure of authority like most black women in his life

*kobe actually had a dad I think

After that everything is speculation

And newsflash

Very very rare a prosecutor won’t press a rape charge if proof of sex is evident and the woman claims rape

Celebrity doesn’t help these days ...it’s a career maker for a state attorney

Nifong anyone?

It’s possible he raped her yes....

It’s also possible he didn’t ..

She and her behavior made for a very questionable victim....which is admittedly something that could unfairly be used

Everything here is just folks giving opinions and you know the adage about that


175 posted on 01/30/2020 9:31:46 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: lodi90
She delivered her body to an NBA star in his hotel room the way we get pizza delivered. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

You're right. Women should be escorted by one male family member at all times when they leave the house. The should also cover their body and hair so that she will ignite the passion of a male.

He was never convicted of a crime

Neither was OJ or the Clintons. Therefore they didn't commit any crimes.

and she got a pay off for the rough sex she invited.

You just called rape "rough sex". You should go on The View.

If anybody got a raw deal here it was Bryant.

Laker fan?


176 posted on 01/30/2020 9:33:48 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: af_vet_1981
Kobe Bryant was accused, arrested, and the charges were dropped.
Yes, I know.

He admitted to consentual sex; it was a grave sin. It seems more precise to label him an adulterer and her a fornicator, and an accused rapist given the case was never even prosecuted, let alone proven.

Here's the thing. I have a brain and I have eyes and ears. I can look at a set of circumstances, statements, and evidence, even if it's only reported, and come to conclusions, just like you can and have. This rapist doesn't have to have his rape proven in court for me to KNOW that he raped this girl.

It seems Ben Roethlisberger has a couple of accusations but no charges. Will you call Ben a "rapist"?

Absolutely. Another rapist.

Legally, it seems Bryant's adultery was consensual...

If you consider kissing, 'adultery'. Once she figured out that he wanted to bang her, by his grabbing at her business, she told him no. She has that right.

Are you trying to tell me that once a man has got his bone on, there's not stopping the fun and that a chick best just strap in and take what's coming to her? Are you really telling me that?

Do you agree that any time a woman says "stop" after consent, even if a wife, and the man continues, he is a "rapist"?

Yes. Especially if she never consented to getting bent over the couch, choked to the point of bruising, and 'entered' as to cause numerous skin breakage open wounds in the vabinal area consistent with forced entry and rape.

Also, explain her blood being on his t-shirt.

Why are you defending a rapist?


177 posted on 01/30/2020 9:52:31 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Whatever the media did, does not negate the DNA evidence.

No, but if you were a 19- or 20-year-old girl who believes your encounter with a famous celebrity turned to rape and then the media starts leaking your name everywhere and implying that you're a slut and a psycho, you might not feel like you would be given a fair trail. You heard **the defense's** characterization of the DNA evidence. You didn't hear the **prosecution's** characterization of the DNA evidence because it would have been illegal to produce this before trial and the case never went to trial.

Essentially, you bought the Adam Schiff version of the evidence. Who knows what the truth really was because the "victim" decided it wasn't worth being trashed in the media for months while "Saint Kobe" was genuflected on ESPN. She took the money to settle and return to anonymity. I'm not sure how many young girls wouldn't.

178 posted on 01/30/2020 9:53:38 AM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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To: faucetman
So who knows if it was rape, buyer’s remorse or simple gold digging.”

Kobe and the rape victim know.

Kobe's a good rapist now, however, so he ain't talking.


179 posted on 01/30/2020 9:55:15 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: wardaddy
Just droning Kobe is a racist doesn’t prove jack

Wow, I didn't know Kobe was a racist too! We do know he was fined for making a gay slur.

But this "racist" accusation is new. Care to give us details?

180 posted on 01/30/2020 10:02:07 AM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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