Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

Washington Times ^ | January 24, 2020 | Bill Gertz

[COUNTrecount]

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.

Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese bio warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of a dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991 he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide, holding the rank of lieutenant colonel.

[ncfool]

Look at the size of the construction site for the temporary hospital

https://images.app.goo.gl/3HtfJM9g8QkKqvPw6

[Zhang Fei]

[Has anyone conjectured that the acknowledged rapid spread, but most seemingly most dangerous for the 40+ age groups would cull older, less productive people...also those holding what are now considered obsolete values or behaviors?

Leave the young pliable breeders in place while justifying near absolute control of a populace?
A viral Logan’s Run?]

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Unlikely. If discovered, it would be catastrophic for Party aristocrats. In China, ~1/3 of the last 2200 years has been ruled by dynasties established by peasant rebels. That’s as if variants of Spartacus’s progeny had ruled Rome for 500 years, which never happened.

And then there’s the never-ending struggle for power among China’s elites. What better pretext for stringing Xi Jinping up from the nearest lamp post than the deliberate release of this pathogen? Not out of any particular empathy for the dead victims but because Xi’s demise would create a lot of job openings below him, as his closest associates down the ladder are gotten rid of by his rivals.

Chinese history is replete with both types of revolutions/mutinies. Xi would be nuts to tempt fate with such an off the wall idea.

China’s rulers aren’t queen ants presiding over ant colonies completely subservient to them by instinct. They have always been constrained by potential mutiny by powerful members (in their own right) of the imperial clan, influential courtiers, wealthy members of the gentry/aristocracy and military commanders appointed as self-sufficient viceroys to fend off significant foreign or domestic threats. The handful of examples of elite mutiny here are just the tip of the iceberg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongle_Emperor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Cao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan

There are literally hundreds of similar, less prominent ones.

In living memory, the most prominent examples of elite competition include the following:

A regional military commander’s defiance of a kill order for Deng Xiaoping. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye_Jianying

A prominent military commander’s coup attempt:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_571

A successful coup by Deng Xiaoping against Mao Zedong’s designated chairman-for-life successor:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua_Guofeng

[frank ballenger]

RE: Wondered when the tinfoil hats would be issued....

Stores ran out of tinfoil hats just after they ran out of face masks.

Not a sign that cool heads will prevail.

I added to it by referencing the 2018-2019 refusal by China to allow the world to get samples to develop vaccines for “a deadly new virus”. I wondered if anyone knew if this was new or connected to that story. It does say old one was a deadly new bird flu variant, probably not the rat and bat eaters’ new one.

For China to refuse that cooperation means either they do not care if millions suffer and die in other countries without a vaccine, or they are developing biowarfare capabilities with that virus.

I hope that doesn’t mean I need the tinfoil hat. Just a question.

nypost.com › 2018/08/29 › china-is-withholding-samples-of-deadly-n...
China is withholding samples of deadly new flu virus
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Aug 29, 2018 - It looks like that might be changing, as China is now withholding samples of a deadly new flu from scientists and officials in the United States.
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www.livescience.com › 63448-china-h7n9-flu-samples-pandemic-pre...
China Isn’t Sharing Samples of Deadly N9 Bird Flu Virus ...

Aug 28, 2018 - The Chinese government appears to be withholding samples of the dangerous flu virus H7N9 from the United States, according to news ...

[grey_whiskers]

Sorry, don’t know how to fix a link.

Should I wear a respirator when handling it? Could my computer catch a virus? /ba-dum t’shhhh>

[independentmind]

The link you posted has a 404 error. There is no related content on page.

Just thought you might want to know....

[qwerty1234]

>>Interesting. 41 deaths so far.

If China says 41, that probably means 10x or 100x that at least.

[grey_whiskers]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047646/no-link-seafood-market-first-case-china-coronavirus-chinese

[goodnesswins]

Worked for me

[redcatcherb412]

Interesting that the virus is not being reported at all in places like North Korea, Russia, Syria, Iran and Eastern bloc countries.

[SunkenCiv]

By not acting against the dwarf running the illegal Pyongyang regime, China’s dictatorship won’t get flowers from me when it dies, but IMHO it will be replaced by something darker and uglier. OTOH, how will be be able to tell the difference? Oh, no! They’re mistreating the muzzies?!? So’s Burma?!? What did muzzies ever do to anyone?!? /s

[minnesota_bound]

Imagine this conversation happened in China.....

Big Bang Theory - Predicts Ebola Pinky Swear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNMbOoHx73M

[SuperLuminal]

Don’t get me wrong... I despise the chicoms because of personal experience in the 1950’s...

It would tickle me pink if a pandemic, confined to china, substantially reduced the population of those who, inevitably someday (IMHO), will be in a ground war once more with the U.S.

[Zhang Fei]

[Interesting that the virus is not being reported at all in places like North Korea, Russia, Syria, Iran and Eastern bloc countries.]

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I expect the Chinese diaspora and trade links are thin on the ground in those countries.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Well, well, did someone forget to seal a vial?

Or did someone catch a "cold" at work?

[SunkenCiv]

• Just A Coincidence? A U.S. Patent For 'An Attenuated Coronavirus' Was Filed In 2015 And Granted In 2018

[DoughtyOne]

I’m not a big fan of “...may have...” or “...could have...” articles.

We all have our reasons to be suspect of China’s leadership, but we don’t need to jump to conclusions.

[grey_whiskers]

See my posts #38 and #47 this thread.

[DoughtyOne]

In addition, I will say, if this were a weaponized illness, we’d be hearing about hundreds of thousands of people dead already > IMO.

You can only keep so much a secret.

I will also say, that if this was a weaponized agent, and it goes public, look out. All bets are off.

The Chinese people might surprise us.

[Zhang Fei]

[Don’t get me wrong... I despise the chicoms because of personal experience in the 1950’s...]

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Thank you for your service. The Chinese intervention was a Pearl Harbor-style sneak attack that did not evoke a similar response. I expect the disparity comes down to the fact that, unlike the Japanese, they did not attack US territory.

[dp0622]

WOW

That’s scary.

Don’t think something that vicious was meant to use now but could certainly have been created for the future.