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‘You’re a bunch of dopes and babies’: Inside Trump’s stunning tirade against generals
Washington Compost ^ | Jan 17, 2020 | Carol Leonnig, Philip Rucker

Posted on 01/17/2020 10:21:09 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

There is no more sacred room for military officers than 2E924 of the Pentagon, a windowless and secure vault where the Joint Chiefs of Staff meet regularly to wrestle with classified matters. Its more common name is “the Tank.” The Tank resembles a small corporate boardroom, with a gleaming golden oak table, leather swivel armchairs and other mid-century stylings. Inside its walls, flag officers observe a reverence and decorum for the wrenching decisions that have been made there.

Hanging prominently on one of the walls is The Peacemakers, a painting that depicts an 1865 Civil War strategy session with President Abraham Lincoln and his three service chiefs — Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant, Major General William Tecumseh Sherman, and Rear Admiral David Dixon Porter. One hundred fifty-​­two years after Lincoln hatched plans to preserve the Union, President Trump’s advisers staged an intervention inside the Tank to try to preserve the world order....

Trump organized his unorthodox worldview under the simplistic banner of “America First,” but Mattis, Tillerson, and Cohn feared his proposals were rash, barely considered, and a danger to America’s superpower standing. They also felt that many of Trump’s impulsive ideas stemmed from his lack of familiarity with U.S. history and, even, where countries were located. To have a useful discussion with him, the trio agreed, they had to create a basic knowledge, a shared language....

“You’re all losers,” Trump said. “You don’t know how to win anymore.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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To: Nailbiter

Fake news. Orange man bad!


161 posted on 01/17/2020 1:57:17 PM PST by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Way to go Mr. President, give ‘em hell.


162 posted on 01/17/2020 2:00:41 PM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: bgill
He’s right. When was the last time they won anything?

VJ Day unless you count Grenada.

163 posted on 01/17/2020 2:39:49 PM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Re: our military leaders dopes and babies,

If he said that then it is the truth.

I have had zero respect for our nation's very highest leaders when they abandoned and **persecuted** lower level officers and military who dared to ask about Obama’s FAKE FAKE FAKE birth documents posted on the Internet. Shame on these perfumed pansies wearing all that costume jewelry on their uniforms. They abandoned the BRAVE and honorable soldiers serving under them to a USURPER.

There is plenty that these despicable highest level military leader could have and should have LEGALLY done to protect those serving under them. Money, perks, and retirement was more important that the lives and families of the honorable men and women in our military.

164 posted on 01/17/2020 2:43:15 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Grampa Dave

Amen!


165 posted on 01/17/2020 2:49:33 PM PST by DeplorableGirl
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
"John Kerry wanted to stay out of harm’s way, and applied for duty accordingly - but that duty turned out to take him into harm’s way."

Yup. For those who don't know or remember, Kerry volunteered for Swift Boat duty to pad his resume while those boats were only patrolling the coast of VN. Once they were re-assigned to patrol up-river hot spots, Kerry worked the system to get out with 3 (at least 2) bogus Purple Hearts. He put in for 2, himself. He served all of 8 months in country. The Swift Boat Veterans on his and other close boats are the reason that fraud didn't make it to the WH.

166 posted on 01/17/2020 3:28:08 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: lodi90

“Interestingly, the military brass questioning Trump’s military acumen had no problem submissively taking orders from a community organizer from Chicago”.

WINNER!


167 posted on 01/17/2020 4:00:54 PM PST by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This is a fascinating read. Just soak in the incredible amount of bias in word choice, the huge assumptions made by the author via mind-reading, and the pearl-clutching outrage by people who should really know better.

Everything in there Trump allegedly said I agreed with. The whole article hinges on a Pentagon meeting where Mattis, Tillerson, Dunford, and Cohn all wanted to lecture Trump on how great The Way Things Have Been For Decades really are and he should just get on board with doing that rather than his uncouth “America First” doctrine. Naturally that went over like a lead zeppelin, and Trump demanded answers to the very questions he’d asked repeatedly on the campaign trail. All they could respond with was some variation of “Well, it’s just always been that way, and we should pretend that it’s still 1946 out there.”

In an attempt to paint Trump as a seething lunatic, I felt like they painted him as one of us—staring these “let’s just keep doing what we’ve been doing” people in the face, demanding real answers, and not getting them. No wonder he fired them all.


168 posted on 01/17/2020 4:06:32 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Anyone who loves history....

Marine General Smedley Butler wrote way back in 1935 War is a racket"

169 posted on 01/17/2020 6:09:11 PM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
“You’re all losers,” Trump said. “You don’t know how to win anymore.”

IF he said it, they had it coming, in spades.

Trump is the only person I trust implicitly in that godforsaken swamp.

170 posted on 01/17/2020 6:15:05 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: laconic; A Navy Vet

Daddy got him out of “war duty” with a posting in the Alabama National Guard?

Yeah whatever, keep believing that BS that discredited Dan Rather tried to peddle.

He was with the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group based at Ellington AFB in Houston.


171 posted on 01/17/2020 6:27:14 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I read the article and what I came away with was this:

The Chiefs of Staff, et al. wanted to preserve the global NWO. The CiC was frustrated with their inability to implement his directives. The CiC gave them a good “dressing down”.

Any military officer who can’t follow orders, or blunt talk, needs to be made a short timer.


172 posted on 01/17/2020 6:27:26 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: servantoftheservant

Though clearly not its intention, this article made me love Trump more. :D ditto. you can see trumps heart in the story.


173 posted on 01/17/2020 6:28:13 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: txrefugee

“Wonder who the crybabies at the Pentagon were who helped them.”

Crybabies like Vindman and the other coffee fetching brown nosing Lieutenant Colonel errand boys who try to out blue falcon each other on a daily basis.


174 posted on 01/17/2020 6:39:29 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Whatever and whenever!

Gotta happen!

Swamp gotta be drained by 2024!


175 posted on 01/17/2020 7:15:11 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WHOA!

You believe ANYTHING written by the Washington Compost!


176 posted on 01/17/2020 7:16:14 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

His interface was Texas Lt. Gov Ben Barnes who repeatedly personally testified that that is exactly what he did on behalf of Bush and other sons of the wealthy well connected and that he regretted it for the rest of his life.


177 posted on 01/17/2020 7:21:05 PM PST by laconic
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To: miss marmelstein

And Trumps main business is real estate. He probably has one of the best geographic understandings of all of us. So anyone who says he is simple, is just betraying their honesty. We all know he builds skyscrapers and had a pile of blueprints on his former private desk.


178 posted on 01/17/2020 7:41:56 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Where was the “course correction” when Obama was pansifying the armed forces? Trump’s calling the men and women in the room losers was NOT a reflection on the soldiers, sailors and marines in the field. He treats them with respect bordering on reverence.


179 posted on 01/17/2020 8:04:33 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Taxman
>You believe ANYTHING written by the Washington Compost!

There can be value in reading it, just as Sovietologists analyzed phony Pravda articles in the '80s.
180 posted on 01/17/2020 8:05:50 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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