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Did NASA know back in 1958 our Sun and not CO2 was causing climate change? (trunc)
The Big Wobble ^ | January 12, 2020

Posted on 01/13/2020 9:28:00 AM PST by all the best

Actually, the records of temperature and CO2 over the past 650,000 years indicate that Earth's temperature always rises first, followed by a rise in Carbon Dioxide. Published papers, clearly show it is always temperature which rises first by at least several hundred years and then the carbon dioxide responds.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; carbondioxide; catastrophism; climate; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; jameshansen; nasa
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1 posted on 01/13/2020 9:28:00 AM PST by all the best
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To: all the best

The sun controls our climates. How hard is that to understand?


2 posted on 01/13/2020 9:30:02 AM PST by abclily
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To: all the best

Yes they did!


3 posted on 01/13/2020 9:33:26 AM PST by Reily
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To: all the best

Actually, the records of temperature and CO2 over the past 650,000 years indicate that Earth’s temperature always rises first, followed by a rise in Carbon Dioxide.
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The real science deniers are the ones demanding obedience to false science.
CO2 is beneficial, not harmful.
Rising CO2 is causing arid areas to green up.
Crop yields are increasing.


4 posted on 01/13/2020 9:34:07 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: all the best

“Did NASA know back in 1958 our Sun and not CO2 was causing climate change?”

This was known in 58 AD.


5 posted on 01/13/2020 9:35:14 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The real problem these days is the amount of BS that comes out of some people mouths.


6 posted on 01/13/2020 9:35:32 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: Reily

Big government institutions tend to have no corporate memory.

Also ever since the demise of Apollo NASA has looked for something “sexy” to do. Flying a low earth orbital space-truck like the shuttle wasn’t cutting it. So it latched on to environmental cultism to give it something to do.


7 posted on 01/13/2020 9:38:22 AM PST by Reily
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To: all the best

“Temperatures rise first, followed by rise in CO2.”

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if these climate idiots got this correlation completely ass backwards? Or perhaps they are more clever than I give them credit for and they did it on purpose to push their phony green economy agenda?


8 posted on 01/13/2020 9:41:15 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: all the best

Remember the credo of the ‘deep state’ (aka ‘public servants’) and socialists: “Why tell the truth, when a lie will do?”, hence, AGW.


9 posted on 01/13/2020 9:43:10 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: all the best

600 volcanoes cranking out tons of toxic fumes gee wonder if it has anything to do with it.


10 posted on 01/13/2020 9:45:44 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Fred Nerks

A Ping-a-loo for source.


11 posted on 01/13/2020 9:49:32 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: oldasrocks
"The real problem these days is the amount of BS that comes out of some people mouths."

Rising BS causes climate change!
When the volcano blows in The Philippines the weather will cool. Might be a good time to buy soy futures.

12 posted on 01/13/2020 9:50:32 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: all the best
There are two things from Nature that affects Earth's climate immediately:

1. The Sun's radiation output based on the sunspot cycle. The more sunspots, the higher the Earth's temperature.
2. The level of the shielding effect based on volcanic ash output.

The latter is of interest as I type this due to the eruption of the Taal volcano in the Philippines. It appears that this could turn into a MAJOR eruption that has the potential to equal Mount Pinatubo's eruption in 1991. If that happens, we could have climatic effects on Earth lasting a decade.

13 posted on 01/13/2020 9:54:26 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: oldasrocks

“Scientists” want to be recognized within their field. Saying something ‘extreme’ gets them recognized and published...

“Journalists” want something BIG to report on so they’ll be recognized... and promoted.

Politicians want something scary to use as an excuse to control people and increase their power and status...

Insecure wealthy ‘elites’ want something that defines their men as being more protective and able to offer more security... And a belief system that makes it ‘wrong’ to question them...

Common everyday people have had it up to here (waving hand above head) with all this stupid crap. And we don’t want our children scared in schools by fools who buy into this crap every few years.


14 posted on 01/13/2020 9:54:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Glacier National Park removed signs warning glaciers will be gone by 2020 (ten year old sign))
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15 posted on 01/13/2020 9:55:57 AM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: all the best

During the day the Sun bathes Earth in light, energy and heat. That is somewhat attenuated by cloud cover. At night, Earth radiates most of the heat of the day out into space. That is greatly reduced if there is a heavy cloud cover. Net result: stable temperatures.

The Sun is responsible for the vast majority of the heat on the Earth’s surface.

Man’s actions are responsible for a tiny portion of the heat on the Earth’s surface.

Water vapor is the major greenhouse gas.

The left wants to return industrialized countries to the dark ages, after taking all their money and giving it to backward, basket-case, unproductive countries.


16 posted on 01/13/2020 9:55:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

CO2 is harmful they tell us. We must switch to plant based diets to save our fragile planet they tell us. Plants and trees need CO2 to survive. Not enough CO2? Guess we’ll have to stick with meat and dairy.


17 posted on 01/13/2020 9:57:01 AM PST by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: all the best

Check out this weeks Nova...We are all doomed as the Sun grows and get’s hotter.


18 posted on 01/13/2020 9:57:32 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: all the best

258 sunspots in March 1958, highest recorded. NASA was freaking out about Carington events. Inter cycle minimum was 5 sunspots.

Now we have months of zero sunspot activity, longer cycles. The climate alarmists are in for a huge surprise.


19 posted on 01/13/2020 10:01:33 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: outofsalt
When the volcano blows in The Philippines the weather will cool there will be a pause in Global Warming.
20 posted on 01/13/2020 10:02:59 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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