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The Secrets of Jewish Genius: It’s not about having higher I.Q.s.
NYT ^ | 12 27 2019 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 12/28/2019 7:56:45 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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Sarah Bernhardt and Franz Kafka; Albert Einstein and Rosalind Franklin; Benjamin Disraeli and (sigh) Karl Marx — how is it that a people who never amounted even to one-third of 1 percent of the world’s population contributed so seminally to so many of its most pathbreaking ideas and innovations?

The common answer is that Jews are, or tend to be, smart. When it comes to Ashkenazi Jews, it’s true. “Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average I.Q. of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data,” noted one 2005 paper. “During the 20th century, they made up about 3 percent of the U.S. population but won 27 percent of the U.S. Nobel science prizes and 25 percent of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.”

But the “Jews are smart” explanation obscures more than it illuminates. Aside from the perennial nature-or-nurture question of why so many Ashkenazi Jews have higher I.Q.s, there is the more difficult question of why that intelligence was so often matched by such bracing originality and high-minded purpose.

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But as the story of the Lithuanian rabbi suggests, Jewish genius operates differently. It is prone to question the premise and rethink the concept; to ask why (or why not?) as often as how; to see the absurd in the mundane and the sublime in the absurd. Ashkenazi Jews might have a marginal advantage over their gentile peers when it comes to thinking better. Where their advantage more often lies is in thinking different.

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To: Ransomed
Where a group tends to live, no matter the reason, might be the most determinate factor in political preference.

I think this is quite accurate.

The Big cities are all blue areas.

101 posted on 12/28/2019 1:07:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Aren’t observant Jews required to learn and write the Hebrew language? Like the Orientals their language is closer to drawing than writing. The method of reading and writing these characters seem to me to be the reason for high intelligence.


102 posted on 12/28/2019 1:18:38 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: BipolarBob

“Eye spel gud bcuz eye hav spelchekr.”

Mi two.


103 posted on 12/28/2019 1:55:38 PM PST by oldvirginian
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To: yesthatjallen
Interesting. Of the Jews I’ve know personally, some are truly extraordinary and some truly not at all.

I wish I could go back in time and see who is Ashkenazi.

My “enemy” competition for the next chair in high school band, the brilliant piano-playing sarcastic boyfriend of a friend’s sister, a professor in school, who could have been working anywhere making insane money, but who instead took me and other dull, disinterested students from zero to understanding Boolean algebra and how to thevenize circuits in a semester... Ashkenazi, I’lll bet.

Amazing people I was fortunate enough to have met and I still have them in my head for comparison.

I think of them when I read about God’s chosen in Scriptures.

104 posted on 12/28/2019 2:04:29 PM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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Nurture rather than Nature (environment over genetics...)

Cultural aspects ...

‘Abstract Science’ pursued over ‘Getting Rich’ (the factor of the society the Jews are forced to live in because they have been a historic minority with limits imposed on opportunities)

There are ‘Socialists’ in Israel is the easy counter to ‘all jews are smarter’

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105 posted on 12/28/2019 2:06:48 PM PST by elbook
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To: Agatsu77

Maybe this article will be published somewhere else. I can’t stand the “New York Times.”


106 posted on 12/28/2019 2:10:49 PM PST by Stepan12 (potusm)
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To: Jim W N
some people are smarter then others, period....

but its good to have money growing up, knowing that you will be able to afford any tutors, and go to any college you want simply because you can afford to...

at least in America, your class status pays wonders.....

there is such a big presence of Jews at Harvard and since they award a large number of acceptances to alumni's children, its a wealth merry go round....and lets face it, Harvard is Harvard for one single important reason...CONNECTIONS.....

so I'll grant that some people have higher IQs but part of that is being in the right path....money and the Ivy league....

107 posted on 12/28/2019 2:12:27 PM PST by cherry
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I had the opportunity of watching two different cultures manage their children at the same time.

Attended an AMZ zion Black church for a while. the children were forced to sit ramrod straight and not figit throughout the 2 to three hour service. If they acted out, they were taken out, beaten and returned to their seats.

these children learned to be quiet and compliant at home and raise hell in other places like school.

Watched a Jewish Community Center After school program for middle schoolers. These kids came into the program in high spirits, never really settled down to do the task at hand, which was secondary to them socializing and blowing off steam.

These children were quiet and compliant publicly and were appropriately high spirited when permitted.


108 posted on 12/28/2019 2:14:56 PM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: cherry

...and good families.


109 posted on 12/28/2019 2:27:27 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: amihow

That and parochial school nuns. Fish on Friday and a dedicated nun are not the norm anymore but Catholics from that era are still good Supreme Court material.


110 posted on 12/28/2019 2:31:45 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: Leaning Right
A young friend of mine in Việt Nam does that. When we are out on scooters, his 4 year old little girl is standing in front of him and the trip however short or long is a constant conversation between the two about what they are passing and what causes things they see. Binh is a truck driver and warehouse manager with a high school education. Anh, the little one, has a lot of knowledge about the world around her now and can talk about things almost like an adult. Binh's wife is an accountant and at home reads a lot to Anh out of things like books on accounting. Anh listens to all of it. When she starts school, even in Việt Nam, she will be ever so much more knowledgeable than her classmates. In America that would, in most primary schools, be a real problem. In Việt Nam not so much.
111 posted on 12/28/2019 2:35:09 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: yesthatjallen
Sarah Bernhardt and Franz Kafka; Albert Einstein and Rosalind Franklin; Benjamin Disraeli and (sigh) Karl Marx

ONE decent smartie among 6 this moron chose? WTH

112 posted on 12/28/2019 2:52:04 PM PST by montag813
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To: yesthatjallen
Um, no...it's I.Q. too


113 posted on 12/28/2019 2:54:44 PM PST by montag813
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well no matter. At least they became so.


114 posted on 12/28/2019 3:16:41 PM PST by amihow
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To: Gay State Conservative

My funny story—I hung out with a Jewish guy who was dating a non-Jewish girl. His parents did not know—he kept it a secret.

One day he bought a gift for his girl-friend, wrapped it and put a card on it, and stupidly left it at home.

His mother found out, screamed at him, and tore the gift to shreds.

Oy vey!


115 posted on 12/28/2019 3:17:08 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: mountainfolk

Yup. Fish with the right hand, ruler to the left hand.

Makes Catholic kids the best in the land.

And most rebellious.


116 posted on 12/28/2019 3:20:35 PM PST by amihow
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To: Glad2bnuts

22 standard letters, four of which have a different form at the end of a word than at the beginning and middle. There is a calligraphy, and in fact I write that calligraphy for a living (Torah scrolls, mezuzot, etc.). But there is also a calligraphic way of writing Latin lettering as well. Nothing at all like Oriental languages. Arabic writing is more complex and ornate than Hebrew.


117 posted on 12/28/2019 3:21:55 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained)
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To: Eleutheria5

Five letters, I mean, with a different final form.


118 posted on 12/28/2019 3:40:53 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained)
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To: yesthatjallen

I once heard a theory that the priests of Christianity were assembled from the brightest young men, who then could never marry, whereas the Jews always encouraged the most promising sons to become rabbis, and yet expected them to marry. So after many generations, the descendants of rabbis had more intelligent boys among them, than did the descendants of Christians.
It’s a great theory but most likely the answer is simpler. A culture that prizes and encourages learning, reaps an excellent harvest. Where learned men and women are honored, there will be more of them.


119 posted on 12/28/2019 3:52:08 PM PST by Buttons12
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To: gandalftb

“I happen to think that nurture or upbringing is more important because that is what results in character and personality.”

I’m not so sure that “nurture” is more important.

It could be argued to be more important in that the innate genetic intelligence goes unused for great things without the proper nurture.

But the proper nurture won’t make a genius out of non-genius.

That’s how I see it but nothing is etched in stone.


120 posted on 12/28/2019 4:40:21 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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