Posted on 12/11/2019 5:05:25 AM PST by marktwain
Nickolas B. Monroe, a 26-year-old resident of Walnut Avenue in Bunnell’s Mondex neighborhood, shot and killed a dog Thursday (Dec. 5), firing at the animal in front of its owners, a 15-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy. The teens had just asked permission from Monroe to look for their dog, a Great Pyrenees, who’d strayed onto Monroe’s property.
The dog, according to Monroe, had previously gone onto his property many times and killed more than a dozen of his chickens, and his owners had been warned.
The incident took place Thursday evening. James Smith, 59, a resident of Walnut Avenue and a neighbor of Monroe’s, had reported to 911 that ” a neighbor shot their dog in front of the children,” according to a sheriff’s incident report.
He told deputies that his daughter–the 15-year-old girl–had lost control of their dog, which had then gone into Monroe’s nearby yard. Smith’s daughter and son went looking for the dog. Monroe gave them permission to look on his property. Smith helped as well, as did Monroe, who brought a flashlight.
But Monroe told Smith that “if the dog had one of his cats he would kill it,” according to a sheriff’s incident report.
They then discovered the dog just inside the wood line in the back of Monroe’s residence. According to Smith, Monroe then pulled a gun from his waistline and shot the dog. Smith reported about six shots, though only one bullet wound was found on the dog. The dog had apparently killed one of Monroe’s cats.
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Related story I read where the dog collar used in conjunction with the electronic fence, emits a beep or tone to warn the dog that they are getting close to the boundary. If the dog gets closer, the collar shocks the dog.
Well, one dog learned to get close enough to the boundary to get the collar to beep, then sit right there on the edge with the collar beeping. This would quickly drain the battery of the collar which meant “no shock”.
Once the collar stopped beeping, the dog would be on his merry way around the neighborhood. LOL!
And they say dogs ain’t smart.
My ignorance has been put in check. Looks like an wonderful dog that I’m sure you’ve had some awesome times with. Dogs are such providers of joy. Certainly that is what yours looks like.
Sorry pal but shooting a teenage girl’s dog right in front of her is, absent an immediate need to do it, not something that a real man would ever do. It utterly classless and lacks any sense of chivalry or respect for woman and children. I have no issue with this being legal but I also think the shooter is a total loser. This is the kind of thing that a fellow who feels really inadequate about himself and has zero sense of perspective would do. By the way, did the shooter offer the teenagers earplugs or eye protection, or did he just start plunking away? Did he offer the girl a last pet of her dog before killing it? Give me a break. This is not something a real man would ever do.
“Rabbit guy pointed out that this was the sixth time they had come on his property and tried to kill (and had killed a couple of times) his rabbits.”
Seems to me that if a neighbor’s pet dog can take out your rabbits or chickens, so too could wild foxes, coyotes, raccoons, fisher cats, bears, bobcats, raptors... I guess some people are lucky enough to live in areas without significant numbers of wild predators.
Agreed.
Mind you, the statistics work out to be roughly one unintended bite per dog in service per three years, or twisted the other way, over a K9’s working life, odds are that there will be three non-directed bites. (and one in a thousand K9’s do not return to the handler.) There is no breakdown for dogs which are tracking, bomb detection, etc (and when the numbers were first reported, the objection was that contraband and tracking dogs were included, rather than just those which are solely used in the field as K9 Officers to help catch and contain criminals.)
DOJ guidance is now to use as long of a tether as the handler is comfortable using and still control the animal and that untethered K9’s should only be deployed when less than lethal options aren't a logical choice. (And many departments have evolved their policies to only deploy an untethered K9 for felony arrests.)
And I'd like to have seen the FBI report actually include breeds, as it would have helped identify a breakdown of which types of police dogs are most likely to do an undirected bite. A friend in a metropolitan department says that he knows for a fact (ha) that most of his department's undirected bites are munitions detection dogs (and another friend blames the front line officer dogs...)
“The whole mocking farmers thing. I get it, and it perfectly explains everything about you and it explains your posts on this thread.”
I grew up on a farm and still run my dad’s tractor.
You people are so pathetic.
I have never seen a dog that has any size on him that would not refrain from killing a cat, or chicken, if he can catch it.
Yup.
I Am your worst possible neighbor, and
if your dog killed my chickens
I would shoot your dog. Right. In. Front. Of. You.
“The two teenagers, who loved their dog, have now been scarred for life by a hideous memory. For two chickens. There was no other resolution?”
No, actually, there wasn’t. This was NOT the first time this dog has been trouble, and the owners were warned.
If your damned dog comes on MY property and kills MY cat that is on MY property then I will KILL your dog. And I will be right to do so.
I am fed up with irresponsible dog owners.
Every time I mow the lawn I have to clean dog crap off of the tractor before I can put it in the garage. Because irresponsible dog owners let them run all over the place.
I wouldn’t harm your dog for crapping on my lawn, but if he attacks me or mine? He’s dead right there.
Related story I read where the dog collar used in conjunction with the electronic fence, emits a beep or tone to warn the dog that they are getting close to the boundary. If the dog gets closer, the collar shocks the dog.
I'm anything but a fan of electronic fences. It's hard enough when using a remote collar to ensure that you time the shock as to create the associations you want, rather than the ones you don't.
And how well trained are the installers? For how many dogs is the first time they're walked on a leash by a stranger is when the fence installer drags them across the fence so they experience the shock? What do they learn from that?
My sister's Great Dane ended up terrified of the flags they used to mark the lines, during training, and was from then on very difficult to manage every time she walked him past a marked construction site.
Sorry pal but shooting a teenage girl’s dog right in front of her is, absent an immediate need to do it, not something that a real man would ever do.
In the last incident of this sort I was involved with, it was a teenage girl with the gun, crying as she told the dog's owner that he needed to get the dog away from her sheep.
I'm sorry, but a dog that's killed livestock, even chickens and cats, needs to be put down, if it's running loose.
Now, if the dog had heeled, and the girl had leashed it, and had it under control, shooting it would have been uncalled for. But if the dog is running loose, and has not responded to commands to heel, and has killed livestock, it needs to be put down now, before it kills something else.
Unintended consequences. I believe the saying is that no plan survives first contact with the enemy.
Your post explains this well.
Yep, I believe you. The Hatfields and McCoys live on.
Puma Messi?
The military K9’s were exclusively German Shepherds.
Funny thing. As I mentioned before I served in the UK in the early 1960’s and about every dog we ever got was named Rex or King. The school we attended for K9 and where we were assigned our dog was British run. Perhaps that had something to do with the total lack of variety in dog names.
Some dogs fake cats out by acting uninterested and bored. Then snip snap they become a feline frisbee.
Our standard poodle was a wizard at taking cats off the top of the six foot fence surrounding our yard when he appeared to be sleeping. That dog was smarter than many humans.
Most wild animals avoid human habitation. Domestic dogs don’t, se they tend to be the main predator problem for farmers. Some are feral dogs that were abandoned by their owners and dogs that are allowed to wander often hook up with them.
That is one smart dog! My Pyrenees gets no closer than six feet from the under ground line. He is so smart he doesn't need the beep first. But then again, my Pyr is a loyal companion guard dog. He knows his job is in the patrol area only. He is large (128 lbs) but is extremely fast. Runs like a damn horse.
Our cats are his friends. He was introduced to them when he was a puppy. Now they are just part of his herd.
Not a lot of "wild foxes, coyotes, raccoons, fisher cats, bears, bobcats, raptors" around.
But to many stew pet people letting their stew pet animals run around killing other people's prize animals.
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