Posted on 12/11/2019 5:05:25 AM PST by marktwain
Nickolas B. Monroe, a 26-year-old resident of Walnut Avenue in Bunnells Mondex neighborhood, shot and killed a dog Thursday (Dec. 5), firing at the animal in front of its owners, a 15-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy. The teens had just asked permission from Monroe to look for their dog, a Great Pyrenees, whod strayed onto Monroes property.
The dog, according to Monroe, had previously gone onto his property many times and killed more than a dozen of his chickens, and his owners had been warned.
The incident took place Thursday evening. James Smith, 59, a resident of Walnut Avenue and a neighbor of Monroes, had reported to 911 that a neighbor shot their dog in front of the children, according to a sheriffs incident report.
He told deputies that his daughterthe 15-year-old girlhad lost control of their dog, which had then gone into Monroes nearby yard. Smiths daughter and son went looking for the dog. Monroe gave them permission to look on his property. Smith helped as well, as did Monroe, who brought a flashlight.
But Monroe told Smith that if the dog had one of his cats he would kill it, according to a sheriffs incident report.
They then discovered the dog just inside the wood line in the back of Monroes residence. According to Smith, Monroe then pulled a gun from his waistline and shot the dog. Smith reported about six shots, though only one bullet wound was found on the dog. The dog had apparently killed one of Monroes cats.
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There is a rental trailer house in the corner of one of our pastures. I have tried to buy it and be rid of the damn thing but no soap.
There has been a parade of renters who all eventually are evicted. They bring their dogs and think they can let them run free. I feel sorry for the dogs.
I feel more sorry for the cats many of them just abandon. Thank goodness there are other houses nearer the mess for them to attempt to go to. We ended up with one of the more hearty and desperate ones.
Some of them wear blue uniforms ...
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You are probably correct and in either case I was unnecessarily harsh in my comment and I'm sorry for that jdege.
What a pretty kitty! LOL
Yes, it was right.
The owners were ignoring their responsibilities and that lead to the death of two animals.
Some people will never fulfill their obligations in life, but others will if they are made to actually see the consequences that follow when they are irresponsible.
These two have been blessed to see the consequences that follow irresponsibility.
“These two have been blessed to see the consequences that follow irresponsibility.”
The two teenagers, who loved their dog, have now been scarred for life by a hideous memory. For two chickens. There was no other resolution?
You cannot be serious.
I would not want you for a neighbor.
Yeah, if you are a person who would not insure that your pet doesn’t kill other people’s pets or livestock then absolutely I am the very last person you want to have as a neighbor.
Congratulations, you have correctly identified the situation.
When I was a kid my parents warned me to never feed our dogs chicken. When I asked why they told me that they would choke on chicken bones.
I now suspect that it had a lot more to do with our neighbor owning several chickens.
Once a dog gets a taste for chicken those feathered creatures become endangered.
I shoot stray dogs and cats when they come on our ranch.
I’m not waiting for them to kill my chickens or try to attack our kids.
Besides, it saves them from getting eaten alive by the wolves, coyotes, eagles, and wild cats.
Some of them still get stomped into meat waffles by our bison.
No, no, livestock (I don’t regard chickens as livestock) were not mentioned and I directed my comments to this situation only and was not making a statement of principle about what I believe under all circumstances.
And you substantiated my remark that I would not want to be your neighbor.
Are you a Hatfield or McCoy?
I am a pretty average representative of people who grew up on farms I guess.
I even recognize that chickens provide eggs and meat and are quintessential livestock. Been a while since I ate a store bought egg.
Yeah yeah, Hatfields and Mccoys. The whole mocking farmers thing.
I get it, and it perfectly explains everything about you and it explains your posts on this thread.
Shooting a 15 year-old girls dog right in front of her when she is an invited guest on your property, and there is no immediate threat to safety or property, is a dick move, IMO, even when it is perfectly legal. It is the kind of thing a total loser does to make himself feel like a big man.
Pyrenees are used for LE and Military dogs they are extremely hard to have as pets these dogs NEED to be trained extensively, once that dog had gotten to those chickens there would be no stopping him from hunting in that neighbors yard some dogs are NOT meant to be pets they are bread for working purposes and until they are retired they should NOT be pets!!! Our hero dog Conan was a Pyrenees!!!
Not only did the dog kill the chickens he killed the mans cat!!! The dog is a Pyrenees the dog should NEVER have been a pet they are not bread to be pets!!!
5 principles of Responsible Dog Ownership...
Contain, Control, Maintain, Train, and Socialize
Pair of Huskies came on my property and killed my cat who was lying on the sun on the balcony. I did not shoot them although I was tempted.
The owner started yelling at me because Tilly had shredded their ears while they were killing her and they were show dogs. I pointed out that he was the nitwit that let them out.
Found out later that he had a habit of "forgetting" to secure his gate. Usually they went north and tried to get at another neighbor's rabbits. Tilly's bad luck that they went south that day.
Anyhow the next time they went to visit the rabbits the rabbit owner shot both of them.
The dog's owner threw a fit. Rabbit guy pointed out that this was the sixth time they had come on his property and tried to kill (and had killed a couple of times) his rabbits. Dog owner had been warned he would shoot them the next time they came over.
I made my comment about K9’s because I worked with them in the military. In the 3+ yrs I did so none of the dogs in my Squad or any other I was aware of (United Kingdom) were involved in instances as you describe.
This does not mean some fools were not bitten who believed they could pet the “nice doggie”. That did happen and those bitten were themselves in the military but like the man said, “you can’t fix stupid”.
Letting your killer dog run loose repeatedly to kill other people's pets, that is being a total jerk.
The man warned them of what he would do if it killed his animals. They paid their money and made their choice.
Said competitions are run sans collar, let alone off leash, usually in unfenced environments, with hundreds of people and dogs along the sidelines. Training the dog to listen to you, always, is critical.
After some failures, in the first year, I ended up locating a bird dog trainer and working with him, using an radio collar, mainly so that I would know how to safely and effectively use it. (I'm no great fan of these collars unless the handler puts the effort into learning how to use them. You can easily screw up a dog if you don't.)
Used correctly, an electronic collar is self-reinforcing. Every time you give a command, the dog obeys, and the dog does not get a shock, reinforces in the dog that obedience results reward. Truth is that after the initial introduction, the collars should only very rarely need to be used.
I several times called Bear off squirrels, at times when he wasn't wearing the collar. But we'd work together on agility and on obedience, for up to an hour, several times every week.
Like I said - it doesn't come free. It takes work.
The two teenagers, who loved their dog, have now been scarred for life by a hideous memory. For two chickens. There was no other resolution?
You cannot be serious.
Five different occasions, maybe six including the last.
Over a dozen chickens, and, in the last instance, a pet cat.
You ignore those facts and consider your evaluation to be serious?
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