Posted on 12/08/2019 8:50:24 AM PST by george76
Two mass shootings at U.S. military installations in one week, including one in which the perpetrator was a foreign national, have prompted questions over firearm use on American bases.
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To have two shootings clustered one after another on military bases is unusual. In the past two decades, there have only been about seven other active shootings on bases; the deadliest was a November 2009 shooting spree in Fort Hood, Texas, which killed 13 and injured 32.
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Government-issued firearms are locked in an arms room on base and only distributed when they are needed for training
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This regulation has been violated in the past: In September 2013, Aaron Alexis, a contractor who had authorized access at the Navy Yard in Washington, D.C., took an unassembled shotgun onto the base in a bag. Once inside, he reassembled the weapon and opened fire, killing 12 people.
Military personnel know they could face significant risks to their careers if they carry a firearm onto a base
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The firearm ban applies even in open-carry state
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The ban on firearms has been debated over the years, especially under President Donald Trump, who vowed in January 2016 that on his first day in office, he would get rid of gun-free zones on schools, and on military bases.
While the ban has remained, the Department of Defense took a step in November 2016 to loosen restrictions on privately owned guns, writing in a directive that base commanders could grant permission to personnel who asked to carry a privately owned firearm for a personal protection purpose not related to performance of an official duty or status.
Not all base commanders are willing to make that exception, and it is considered on a very strict case-by-case basis, according to experts.
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There is no place more dangerous than a “gun free zone”.
Then you _know_ everyone who has a gun is a bad guy.
NSS
(To the headline writer, not you George)
I could be mistaken but I believe the sailor who shot the civilians was on duty and used issued weapons.
Larger font size at entrances might help. Or in arabic?
MPs should be carrying rifles and sidearms. Others who are rated within the military to carry sidearms should not be prevented from doing so.
It should also raise some doubts about letting Muslims into our Nation, especially to train them in military matters.
It is the base commander that has prohibited concealed carry on base, not DoD policy.
DOD DIRECTIVE 5210.56 ARMING AND THE USE OF FORCE
SECTION 4: POSSESSION OF PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS BY DOD
PERSONNEL NOT RELATED TO THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES.
4.1. GENERAL. This section provides guidance for determining the eligibility of DoD personnel to carry privately owned firearms on DoD property for personal protection when it is not related to the performance of official duties. This section also provides requirements for individual training, transport, safeguarding, and storage of privately owned firearms that the arming authority must consider when determining whether to permit an individual to carry a privately owned firearm on DoD property.
4.2. ARMING AUTHORITIES CHARGED WITH PERMITTING PERSONS TO CARRY PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS. The arming authorities charged with determining whether to permit DoD personnel to carry privately owned firearms on DoD property:
a. May grant permission to DoD personnel requesting to carry a privately owned firearm (concealed or open carry) on DoD property for a personal protection purpose not related to performance of an official duty or status. Permissions granted under this section do not apply to carrying a firearm within federal buildings unless the arming authority specifically determines, after consultation with servicing legal counsel and in accordance with applicable DoD policy, that an appropriate exception under Section 930(d) of Title 18, U.S.C. applies.
#VictimZone
Are you crazy? Do you really want our military bases descending into the Wild West? < /libtard >
That should have been changed when the first shooting occured years ago!
PDJT is commander in chief. This edict is about 3 or 4 sentences at most. Why isn’t it done?
The Pearl Harbor shooter was issued one of these guns.
What use is a military without weapons they may employ?
Time to question why we think selling weapons is so important we have to take these risks.
10 Saudis now in custody over the attack they won’t call terrorism.
Even under Trump the idiocy continues.
Like many others, I carry a sidearm everywhere as a civilian and have never witnessed this descent into the “Wild West” phenomenon. Maybe I don’t get out enough?
I would say that no base commanders are willing to make that exception as a means of CYA for them. Even if a shooting occurred by someone not granted such an exception, the commander could kiss his career goodby for "permitting an environment that encouraged access to firearms".
When I was in the Army,I knew many fellow soldiers who owned firearms (and carried). Secondly,I can’t see any possible way outside of absolute gross dereliction by the Arms Room that a service weapon is used as a murder weapon. I was always in Infantry so maybe the rest of the services and branches are different.
I work on a military base.
If a civilian Army/Navy/AF employee with a TS + clearance brings a gun onto a base and gets caught, they will be fired by COB. Even if its a accident of leaving one in the vehicle from the weekend. Only exception is the long PITA process to hunt on base if available.
Bring one into the building and my guess is fired with charges filed. Federal felony charges.
I want to post signs outside the local base saying :
All women entering or exiting this base are unarmed without even mace or a pocket knife. Please do not rape, rob, kidnap, murder or attack these women as they run errands after work - by order of Base Commander and the US Army.
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