There is no place more dangerous than a “gun free zone”.
Then you _know_ everyone who has a gun is a bad guy.
NSS
(To the headline writer, not you George)
I could be mistaken but I believe the sailor who shot the civilians was on duty and used issued weapons.
It should also raise some doubts about letting Muslims into our Nation, especially to train them in military matters.
It is the base commander that has prohibited concealed carry on base, not DoD policy.
DOD DIRECTIVE 5210.56 ARMING AND THE USE OF FORCE
SECTION 4: POSSESSION OF PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS BY DOD
PERSONNEL NOT RELATED TO THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES.
4.1. GENERAL. This section provides guidance for determining the eligibility of DoD personnel to carry privately owned firearms on DoD property for personal protection when it is not related to the performance of official duties. This section also provides requirements for individual training, transport, safeguarding, and storage of privately owned firearms that the arming authority must consider when determining whether to permit an individual to carry a privately owned firearm on DoD property.
4.2. ARMING AUTHORITIES CHARGED WITH PERMITTING PERSONS TO CARRY PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS. The arming authorities charged with determining whether to permit DoD personnel to carry privately owned firearms on DoD property:
a. May grant permission to DoD personnel requesting to carry a privately owned firearm (concealed or open carry) on DoD property for a personal protection purpose not related to performance of an official duty or status. Permissions granted under this section do not apply to carrying a firearm within federal buildings unless the arming authority specifically determines, after consultation with servicing legal counsel and in accordance with applicable DoD policy, that an appropriate exception under Section 930(d) of Title 18, U.S.C. applies.
#VictimZone
That should have been changed when the first shooting occured years ago!
PDJT is commander in chief. This edict is about 3 or 4 sentences at most. Why isn’t it done?
The Pearl Harbor shooter was issued one of these guns.
What use is a military without weapons they may employ?
Time to question why we think selling weapons is so important we have to take these risks.
10 Saudis now in custody over the attack they won’t call terrorism.
Even under Trump the idiocy continues.
I would say that no base commanders are willing to make that exception as a means of CYA for them. Even if a shooting occurred by someone not granted such an exception, the commander could kiss his career goodby for "permitting an environment that encouraged access to firearms".
When I was in the Army,I knew many fellow soldiers who owned firearms (and carried). Secondly,I can’t see any possible way outside of absolute gross dereliction by the Arms Room that a service weapon is used as a murder weapon. I was always in Infantry so maybe the rest of the services and branches are different.
I work on a military base.
If a civilian Army/Navy/AF employee with a TS + clearance brings a gun onto a base and gets caught, they will be fired by COB. Even if it’s a accident of leaving one in the vehicle from the weekend. Only exception is the long PITA process to hunt on base if available.
Bring one into the building and my guess is fired with charges filed. Federal felony charges.
I want to post signs outside the local base saying :
All women entering or exiting this base are unarmed without even mace or a pocket knife. Please do not rape, rob, kidnap, murder or attack these women as they run errands after work - by order of Base Commander and the US Army.
Part of the solution must be the soldiers paying closer attention to their fellow soldiers.
They’re “questioning the ban on military bases”?! So first they need to research this?!
Senior NCO’s and Officers should be armed at all military bases.
The president could order this today.
The Pearl Harbor incident involved an armed security guard shooting people using the weapon he was assigned. If that isn’t a one-off, nothing is. There is simply no comparison between the two incidents, and the Pearl Harbor one is totally unique.
Trained to use firearms, then stripped of the right to self-defense.
It’s a Bonehead policy. Whoever started that crap should rot.