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Watergate and The Trump Crisis
Vanity | November 14, 2019 | Jim Noble

Posted on 11/14/2019 1:26:02 PM PST by Jim Noble

Richard Nixon was elected to his second term as President in November 1972 with 60.1% of the popular vote and 520 electoral votes. Less than two years later, he was removed from office (forced to resign) by a conspiracy orchestrated by the CIA (Woodward), the FBI (Felt), the media (Bradlee, Bernstein) and Democrats in Congress.

At the time, no American was more enthusiastic for his removal than me. I was a true Watergate fanatic. I ate, slept, and talked Watergate. The day he resigned, I was overjoyed.

I was fooled, and many are being fooled right now, in the same way, by the same conspirators, following the same script aiming for the same outcome.

Let me explain.

Nixon had campaign operatives commit a crime (burglary) for the purpose of finding evidence of another crime (prostitution) and to hurt his enemies. He made a mistake doing this. He rationalized it, I'm sure, by reference to the innumerable crimes of the whoremaster John Kennedy and his successor LBJ. This happened in June of 1972. By the time America went to the polls in November, every single American knew the President's men had broken into the Watergate and believed or strongly suspected that he was somehow involved.

Nevertheless, the voters gave Nixon the largest COMBINED popular and electoral vote majority in the history of the nation. But the Deep State did not agree with the voters' verdict.

So, they constructed a narrative which was supposed to take months, maybe more than a year, to play out.

Those of us who were alive in those days remember the drip, drip, drip of revelation after revelation, "discovered" by CIA operative Woodward and leaked to Bernstein by FBI operative Felt. It was SO EXCITING! LIKE A MOVIE! EXCEPT IT WAS REAL!

But, of course, it wasn't real at all. Every "fact", real and invented, was known to the coup plotters from the beginning.

Had the Democrats in Congress opened an "impeachment inquiry" in January of 1973, they would have been laughed out of town. But that wasn't what they were trying to do.

What they wanted, and what they eventually got, was to get Nixon's Republican defenders to coalesce around a defense that the Deep State know was false, could prove was false, and would drop on the Republicans like an atom bomb at just the right moment.

Alexander Butterfield "accidentally revealed" the existence of White House tapes at a Senate hearing. Of course, this wasn't an accident. And it wasn't a secret, not from the CIA, not from the FBI, not from the traitors on the National Security Council and the other Deep State organs (yes, Henry Kissinger, I'm looking at you).

At the time, it was inconceivable that anyone other than "Tricky Dick" could have erased the famous 18 minute segment. But it's much more likely now, after seeing Ciamarella and Vindman in action, that this was done with malicious intent by globalist spies in the White House still smarting over the spanking delivered to McGovern less that 24 months earlier.

The correct defense of Richard Nixon was to confess that his subordinates had done it, to name his predecessors who had done much, much worse, to apologize to the whore involved, and to point America towards her future.

Once again, Republicans are coalescing around a point (no quid-pro-quo) that the other side knows is false, and can prove is false.

Soon, they will have Republicans saying. "Well, of course, we AGREE with our friends across the aisle that IF the President offered something to the President of Ukraine, taht he deserves to be removed, BUT, we know he didn't" - and when teh bad guys produce the tape recording of the phone call they've had all along, out he goes.

Trump's proper defense is, "You're goddam right I ordered the Code Red". anything less is bound to fail.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aintispecial; belongsinchat; blasphemy; chat; cia; deepstate; forumabuse; learntopost; lordsnameinvain; nixon; notnews; profanityvanity; stupidvanity; trump; vanity; vanityprofanity; watergate
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To: stockpirate

“”They weren’t looking for prostitution,””

There was so much that I disagreed with in the thread that I forgot to ask about that. Where on earth did the “looking for a prostitute” come from? Guess I should be directing my questions to the author....


61 posted on 11/14/2019 2:43:27 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: DoodleBob

I agree with what you’ve posted there. The same moribund U.S. economy that eroded public support for Nixon in 1974 also turned Gerald Ford into a half-term president and Jimmy Carter into a one-term president after Nixon left office.


62 posted on 11/14/2019 2:44:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Nixon’s greatest mistake in the whole Watergate scandal was committed one particular Saturday Night.

I believe Nixon's biggest mistake was forcing out his Attorney General Richard Kleindienst and replacing him with Elliot Richardson--an odd choice since Richardson was one of the liberal/left East Coast elitists whom Nixon had been battling sine the Alger Hiss case. Richard Kleindienst, a Barry Goldwater man, would never, ever have hired Archibald Cox, who was JFK's Solicitor General. But Richardson placed a Kennedy man in charge of an investigation into Nixon, the arch-enemy of the Kennedys.

63 posted on 11/14/2019 2:45:20 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Texas Eagle

lmao


64 posted on 11/14/2019 2:46:36 PM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m still not sure about that. I’m pretty sure the economy was just as bad during 1972 as well, yet that never stopped Nixon from easily winning reelection against McGovern.


65 posted on 11/14/2019 2:56:13 PM PST by otness_e
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To: Jim Noble

I don’t doubt that Nixon was set up, but he was far from perfect. I don’t know much, but when he “opened China”, which, since I’m not a financial wiz or a billionaire, I can only guess how it changed world finances, I think he, unwittingly or not, made a deal with the devil. China (their government) is evil. I’m sure there are good ordinary people there, but when everything is sifted, I think everyone will see that China is truly evil.


66 posted on 11/14/2019 3:00:08 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: cowboyusa

never said I was a big fan of Nixon, I just said what they charged him with was bullshit- small potatoes compared to what his opposition was doing. He was indeed a globalist, and believed in top-down economies, (with the government being the top).... His biggest sin, so far as I’m concerned was normalizing relations with Red China....hard to downplay the repercussions of that.


67 posted on 11/14/2019 3:00:23 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Jim Noble

2019 is NOT 1973 and the Libs do not control the news cycle to ner thje extent they did in the 70’s.

We also didn’t have a fighter in the WH like DJT. Trump says he is not a quitter and I believe him and do not expect he will quit now.


68 posted on 11/14/2019 3:02:43 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: Texas Eagle

https://www.watergate.com/bob-woodward

I don’t know about CIA, but before becoming a reporter he worked for the military and intercepted calls and reports from Kissinger. He denied that he had worked for Admiral Moorer - maybe even lied about being in the military. (It was a long time ago that I read the book).

The military hated Nixon as much as the left did. (Hmm - reminds me of today with all the deep state leftists in our military).


69 posted on 11/14/2019 3:03:04 PM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: Jim Noble

I thought it was Dean and/or Hunt that ordered the break in. Nixon didn’t know until after.

Gordon Liddy says it was to get rid of info since one of the prostitutes was dating Dean.


70 posted on 11/14/2019 3:03:09 PM PST by Fledermaus (Republicans - As Usless As Democrats)
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To: otness_e

are you naive or what? “Now, that being said, it should have been a temporary agency that got closed down once it was all clear.” The closest thing to eternal life on this earth is a government program! No government program, let alone agency, has ever ceased operations because they succeeded, and especially not if they fail.


71 posted on 11/14/2019 3:07:04 PM PST by Segovia
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To: otness_e
I'm not saying Americans hated Nixon in 1972. Clearly they didn't (though McGovern wasn't a great alternative). What I AM saying, is that if a Dem had imposed wage and price controls and created a runaway govt agency (I get that we "needed" the EPA, just like we "needed" DHS and the attendant erosion of privacy), we'd call him a socialist. But for some reason, probably out of a fear that they may give libs an inch, conservatives go to great lengths to defend Nixon when he was a milquetoast free marketer.
72 posted on 11/14/2019 3:12:28 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: Flaming Conservative

wow, we posted the exact same argument fifteen seconds apart; guess FR is still like minded great minds-——;-}


73 posted on 11/14/2019 3:12:49 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Luke21

huh,,,he had just won the biggest election victory ever....


74 posted on 11/14/2019 3:14:37 PM PST by basalt
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To: Steely Tom

Good points. Similar to what the NAZIs did in Germany, creating a separate reality where Jews were less than human and deserving of every evil heaped upon them. Conservatives are the new German Jews...


75 posted on 11/14/2019 3:17:47 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jim Noble

Your way back machine doesn’t work today. Here is why
1. There was only 3 dominate media outlets. At the time they practiced real journalism and had a high level of trust. There are thousands of ways to get news now and the media has lied so much that their credibility is in the royal shitter. Without public trust, they can all get together and what do you have? A large group of liars.
2. Nixon ran away to China, rather than fight. He was not likable, and his tapes as well as the missing 13 minutes was enough to indicate a coverup. His popularity went into the toilet and the media destroyed him. Trump on the other hand fights. He belittles and humiliates his opponents. It pisses them off, but makes him enduring to the public, because they already knew these people were scum.
3. The democraps have nothing on him. They are openly trying to destroy him with every, and anything, and it’s numbing the public, thanks to the help of the media, and this does not go unnoticed by the public. Say what you will about the voting public, 2 things they loathe are liars and bully’s.
4. Trump gets results. The democraps and republicans give excuses.
5. Trump has an act 2, if he can get Barr off his fat ass and the stick out of Horowitz that proves massive corrupt from the DNC that will destroy them, and they know it. Thus the reason for this farce in the first place, its to stop Trump from revealing the truth.

So all Trump needs to do is let this farce continue. It humiliates the DNC and makes the media even less credible. When your opponent is hanging themselves, keep feeding them rope


76 posted on 11/14/2019 3:31:39 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: marktwain
Watergate was a Media Coup

And big media is the communications division for deep state. Deep state controls the news/communications. When the CIA destabilized or covertly aided in the process of destabilizing/overthrowing countries in the past, it always attempts to seize and or control the media. It's an essential part of the process.

77 posted on 11/14/2019 3:39:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Segovia

There were a few times where presidents closed down government programs once they’re no longer of any use. Let’s not forget that Abraham Lincoln implemented the income tax during the Civil War, and that eventually got canned after the war was over (until Woodrow Wilson brought it back in permanently). Are you going to call Lincoln one of our worst presidents? And let’s not forget about the methods used during World War II regarding government programs and recycling. Those got cut after the war. If they can cut them, even temporarily, so can Nixon ultimately.


78 posted on 11/14/2019 3:39:56 PM PST by otness_e
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To: Jim Noble

Obama pulled the electronic version of watergate on the trump campaign.

No problem there apparently.


79 posted on 11/14/2019 3:42:47 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Bommer

Nixon never ran away to China. While it is indeed a shame that he did in fact ally with China, even that was specifically in a misguided attempt at destabilizing the USSR. Not to mention he did win us the Vietnam War. Also, I’m pretty sure if Nixon were truly not likeable, he would have at best barely won against McGovern and at worst lost against him, NOT won in a landslide.

But you are right about everything else.


80 posted on 11/14/2019 3:45:19 PM PST by otness_e
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