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Watergate and The Trump Crisis
Vanity | November 14, 2019 | Jim Noble

Posted on 11/14/2019 1:26:02 PM PST by Jim Noble

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To: Jim Noble

You don’t confess with a lie. You do not try to reason with a Democrat Fascist. You beat them to death with facts


21 posted on 11/14/2019 1:45:14 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: marktwain

We were limited as to where we got our news from back then. Fortunately that is not the case now.


22 posted on 11/14/2019 1:45:15 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Jim Noble

“Trump’s proper defense is, “You’re goddam right I ordered the Code Red”. anything less is bound to fail.”
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WE NEED TRUMP.45! ON OUR WALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!+
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23 posted on 11/14/2019 1:46:58 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Jim Noble

Watergate was the first time the FBI (and CIA?) engineered the overthrow of an elected President.

It was like a new weapon which was never seen before, so of course, the targets were unprepared.

It proved, in spades, that a president is not his own boss. He must absolutely make sure his people control the DOJ and have power within the Intelligence Community.

In that light, I don’t think everyone realizes how precarious DJT’s position was with Sessions as his AG.


24 posted on 11/14/2019 1:47:36 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Texas Eagle
Yeah he was.
Why are you surprised? BTW - twas Haig : get rid of Agnew, then Nixon and now Henry Kissenger has free rein
25 posted on 11/14/2019 1:49:45 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yale graduate, secret society member, Agency connections, commissioned officer - he was a spook, almost without a doubt.


26 posted on 11/14/2019 1:50:45 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Seajay

I’m surprised because I’ve never heard that before.


27 posted on 11/14/2019 1:51:23 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Jim Noble

I will never understand this knee jerk response from the GOP to the Democrat Fascist Party lie machine is always to advocate preemptively surrendering and begging for mercy.


28 posted on 11/14/2019 1:51:33 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Robert DeLong
We were limited as to where we got our news from back then. Fortunately that is not the case now.

Exactly correct. We have been essentially ruled by the Mediacracy for 50 years, more or less. Reagan was an anomaly, he surprised them by winning, and then by winning the Cold War.

29 posted on 11/14/2019 1:51:58 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Texas Eagle

I only learned Woodward’s background in Military Intelligence about 2 years ago, it has been deliberately kept in the background by a lot of people for some time.


30 posted on 11/14/2019 1:52:06 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44; Texas Eagle
Early life and career

Woodward was born in Geneva, Illinois, the son of Jane (née Upshur) and Alfred Eno Woodward II, a lawyer who later became chief judge of the 18th Judicial Circuit Court. He was raised in nearby Wheaton, Illinois. His parents divorced when he was twelve, and he and his brother and sister were raised by their father, who subsequently remarried. [3] Woodward enrolled in Yale College with a Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps (NROTC) scholarship and studied history and English literature. While at Yale, Woodward joined the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity and was a member of the prestigious secret society Book and Snake.[4][5] He received his B.A. degree in 1965 and began a five-year tour of duty in the United States Navy.[6] During his service in the Navy, Woodward served aboard the USS Wright, and was one of two officers assigned to move or handle nuclear launch codes the Wright carried in its capacity as a NECPA.[7] At one time, he was close to Admiral Robert O. Welander, being communications officer on the USS Fox under Welander's command.[8]

After being discharged as a lieutenant in August 1970, Woodward was admitted to Harvard Law School but elected not to attend. Instead, he applied for a job as a reporter for The Washington Post while taking graduate courses in Shakespeare and international relations at George Washington University. Harry M. Rosenfeld, the Post's metropolitan editor, gave him a two-week trial but did not hire him because of his lack of journalistic experience. After a year at the Montgomery Sentinel, a weekly newspaper in the Washington, D.C., suburbs, Woodward was hired as a Post reporter in 1971.[9]

31 posted on 11/14/2019 1:52:30 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Jim Noble

This is a great summation on Watergate, which I also lived through as a kid. Since then, the presidency itself has protected itself against this ever happening again. Nixon surrounded himself with very shady people, because he felt he had to. Terrorism was happening on our soil on a regular basis (well before 9/11). But Nixon did not have to resort to extreme tactics. He obviously had the people behind him.

Trump, with far less support but solid support nonetheless under very similar social-political circumstances, is way smarter than Nixon and knows he has the support of We The People. The Schiff Show failed on the opening day matinee, and it will only get worse. Read the Transcript. And by the way Epstein did not kill himself.


32 posted on 11/14/2019 1:52:32 PM PST by scottinoc
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To: Shadow44

Well, yeah, because it basically makes him a traitor.


33 posted on 11/14/2019 1:52:44 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Robert DeLong

“We were limited as to where we got our news from back then. Fortunately that is not the case now.”

There was only one view available, the media’s. Nixon never had a chance. But establishing the 55 mile an hour speed limit turned a lot of people against him. Nixon was tone deaf.


34 posted on 11/14/2019 1:53:03 PM PST by Luke21
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To: outpostinmass2

Yep...it’s true, I believe! Maybe John Brennan can write an Op-ed for the Times LOL!


35 posted on 11/14/2019 1:54:01 PM PST by gr8eman (Stupid should hurt!)
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To: Jim Noble
I see your point but I disagree with your conclusion. The smartest thing for the President and the GOP to do is simply respond to the evidence that is presented at any given time ... because we all know the accusations will change — and new witnesses fabricated out of thin air — almost by the hour.

If the Democrats has the wherewithal and the motivation to do what you’re suggesting, then why didn’t they do it already with the whole “Russian collusion” clown show?

36 posted on 11/14/2019 1:54:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: PGR88
"Watergate was the first time the FBI (and CIA?) engineered the overthrow of an elected President."

Second.


37 posted on 11/14/2019 1:54:28 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Steely Tom; All
The MSM-Democrats are practicing a form of virtual-reality politics that is made possible by the widespread availability of immersive media and social media. They are constructing a credible alternative reality in cyberspace; this alternative reality has its own virtual facts and its own virtual logic.

I think you have this almost exactly backwards. The Democrats have been doing this for at least 50 years.

Now, with social media, the Internet, and talk radio, Conservatives are able to get out the truth, which acts as a "red pill" to the MSM-Democrats virtual construction of reality.

38 posted on 11/14/2019 1:59:44 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Jim Noble

Nixon was a super Liberal Globalist, mao loving traitor, everything that aTrump is not.


39 posted on 11/14/2019 2:08:15 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: Jim Noble

Why would anyone admit to any Democrat accusation, when the accusation will change 24 hours later?

Why would anyone even respond to an accusation from these people, or even anything that they say at all?

They. Are. Liars.


40 posted on 11/14/2019 2:10:04 PM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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