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Pennsylvania 2020: It's Complicated
Townhall ^ | 11/12/2019 | Salena Zito

Posted on 11/12/2019 7:54:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: HamiltonJay
PA is not in play... its laughable for the claims they are making

Jay, if it were not for voter fraud, I would agree 100%.

BUT, and that is a big BUT, I am very nervous about fraud.

21 posted on 11/12/2019 8:40:39 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: HamiltonJay

‘PA is not in play...’

glad to hear it’s all settled; won’t have to waste time and effort voting then...thanks...


22 posted on 11/12/2019 8:41:30 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Dilbert San Diego

‘If I missed any, please let me know.’

add CO to the d’s; add IA and OH to the r’s...


23 posted on 11/12/2019 8:45:37 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: HamiltonJay

The reporting is not garbage. Enjoy your day.


24 posted on 11/12/2019 8:50:16 AM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not complicated at all you have the completely utterly corrupt Philadelphia my hometown and then the entire rest of the state


25 posted on 11/12/2019 8:59:05 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: SeekAndFind

A scolding old rich white lady shrew, or a little gay white dude who makes out with his husband on stage, would be excellent ways to seriously depress the Philly/Pitt urban vote and kill the Dem’s chances in the state.


26 posted on 11/12/2019 9:01:28 AM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I think Maine is in play as well. Her Royal Thighness won the state by only 22,000 votes. Trump won one congressional district.

Whomever the j@ck@$$ party nominates will win the urban congressional district where all the Somalis are concentrated. The state, however, is another matter.

The Hispanic heavy states of Nevada, Colorado and maybe even New Mexico could also be in play since a good share of them prefer a strong economy to open borders. If this happens, then Arizona moves out of the states in play as well.

Otherwise, I agree with your assessment.

27 posted on 11/12/2019 9:26:09 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I also think that if he chooses to campaign there Trump can make enough of a dent in California to turn the national popular vote into a blowout.


28 posted on 11/12/2019 9:50:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: USS Alaska

Voter Fraud is a non starter, Dems fraud every election, you think they didn’t in 16?

Trump will expand his numbers across the map, period.

Look folks, a few facts:

1) only 4 presidents who won their first term lost their re-election bids in the last 120 years, and of those 4, 3 were tossed out due to the economy. Short of a complete economic collapse between now and next November, there is no shot any Democrat is taking the White House....

2) With the sole exception of Barack Obama, no president (at least in the last century plus) that has won re-election for a second term done so with fewer votes than they got in their initial election.

Trump is not going to lose re-election and he’s not going to lose PA. Anyone telling you otherwise, is wholesale ignorant of how and why Trump won. The Trump base is NOT the republican base, it includes it, but it is NOT it... If Trump is NOT expressly on the ballot, comparing the results of those elections to ones he isn’t is flat out silly.

The only question about the 2020 election that is up in the air is will Trump’s coattails put the GOP back in control of the house or not. That’s it.

Best case scenario for the Democrats is about 15 states plus DC, and right now, regardless of who they nominate, nothing remotely going on is “best case” for them.


29 posted on 11/12/2019 9:52:52 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: GCFADG

Yes it is.

It presents the 6 seat gain by Demcrats as purely a reaction to Trump, which is GARBAGE... The Supreme Court of PA forcibly redrew the district map handing 3 districts to the Democrats.

Comparing elections where Trump is NOT on the ballot to ones where he is, is false analysis. It shows a pure basic lack of the most basic understanding that has been in place since 2015 when Trump announced.

The TRUMP base, is NOT the GOP BASE.. period. The existing house districts, in the mid west are to maximize the GOP base or the Dem base... Trump is neither of these... His base includes the GOP base but is not exclusively that... So anyone pitching you that how elections turned out when Trump was not on the ballot is an indicator of what will happen when he is, is wholesale garbage analysis.

This is the same silly nonsense that had these folks claiming Hillary will win PA.. and why the MSM was biting their nails over WI and MI for hours before they even realized she’d lost PA... By a far bigger margin than either of those states, because they have not a damned clue what actually is going on on the ground.

Once the Philly numbers were largely in election night, it was clear Hillary had lost PA... but the flapping heads and pundits didn’t realize it until hours later.... They couldn’t see, the obvious... Trump was going to get hundreds of thousands more votes than any GOP candidate before in this state and he was going to get them across the rural parts of the state, as disenfranchised lifelong Democrats finally had a reason to vote for someone since their party had long ago left them.

PA is NOT in play... The DEMS and MSM DESPERATELY NEED IT TO BE.. but its not....


30 posted on 11/12/2019 10:00:21 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: dead
Pocahontas isn't doing well getting support from black Democrats so far. Maybe a Booker-Buttigieg ticket would be the dream ticket for the Democrats. It would drive up turnout among blacks and gays, and the media would tell everyone else they have to vote for them or else they are haters.

/s

31 posted on 11/12/2019 10:28:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I wouldn’t write off NV.

And in ME I would only write off the southern district. Trump already won the northern district in 2016 and I think he could possibly take the 2 at-large votes in 2020.


32 posted on 11/12/2019 10:32:22 AM PST by rhinohunter (I am Cristeros)
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To: USS Alaska

“The real problem with Philly...is the fact that...they vote at 104%.”

That this chit goes on and on, over and over, time and time again, throughout this country, yet is never challenged, let alone stopped, by the Republican Party is Exhibit A that the Republican Party is in cahoots with the Marxocrats at every level of criminality you care to identify.


33 posted on 11/12/2019 11:05:13 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: lightman

Ping.


34 posted on 11/12/2019 11:07:42 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: USS Alaska

The fraud is YUGE here in York County; insecure voting machines down, paper ballots, scanners not working etc.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3791865/posts


35 posted on 11/12/2019 11:18:08 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill; USS Alaska

Until proven otherwise, the mandate to revert to paper ballots appears to be deliberately inflicted on the state which put DJT over the top in order to prevent that from ever happening again.

The DemonKKKrat powers that be want the voters to make their selections in an atmosphere of intimidation with minimal (if any) privacy.


36 posted on 11/12/2019 12:46:29 PM PST by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: HamiltonJay

TL/DR

No it isn’t.


37 posted on 11/12/2019 2:09:33 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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To: lightman

Got that right.


38 posted on 11/12/2019 2:29:35 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Does Barr have the courage to send reliable Federal agents into places like Detroit, Philadelphia, South Florida, Las Vegas, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Cleveland, and other blue cities in purple states to thwart fraud?
39 posted on 11/12/2019 2:37:50 PM PST by Wallace T. ( .)
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