Posted on 11/01/2019 8:25:23 AM PDT by grundle

Helen Moore of Detroit leads a group of protesters outside the federal courthouse in Cincinnati last Thursday.
"Every school in the country would be affected," one expert said. "There could be a lot of litigation."
After two years of struggling to pass any of his community college classes, Jamarria Hall, 19, knows this for certain: His high school did not prepare him.
The four years he spent at Detroits Osborn High School were a big waste of time, he said, recalling 11th and 12th grade English classes where students were taught from materials labeled for third or fourth graders, and where long-term substitutes showed movies instead of teaching.
Whats less certain, however, is whether Hall's education in Detroits long-troubled school district was so awful, so insufficient, that it violated his constitutional rights.
Thats the question now before a federal appeals court that heard arguments last week in one of two cases that experts say could have sweeping implications for schools across the country.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
If schools aren’t responsible for student outcomes, then vouchers are a must.
Absolutely they do not
While I would hate to see the courts get involved in another judgment call I have to agree with the lady in the multi colored sign
But ladies with all due respect youve got to stop voting for Democrats
If the government is going to compel you to send your children to a government school,
and the government is going to compel you to pay taxes to support those government schools,
then the parent/student has a right to expect them to deliver on a defined end product.
While I believe this is a reasonable expectation for compulsory participation in the educational system, I sincerely doubt the courts will find the same or similar conclusion.
I can not disagree, however from what I read the issue is the curriculum would never allow education that would provide English adequate for community college entry and success. The specifics of the litigation may be different than the decision of which you speak.
The student was unable to access adequate high school course work that enabled an education adequate for community college success.
I understand your point and know personally of your thought. The son of a close business associate received a baseball scholarship from a small private college. He lost it simply because he could not do any of the course work and did not actually survive the first semester. The fault was his because his school was good but he was just lazy and blew it. In effect, he brought shame on himself and his mother.
Yes, government schools are simply self-sustaining bureaucracies. “Education” is a secondary consideration.
But it also seems that these parents want to take even less responsibility for their own children. They are angry they even have to worry about it.
I agree with you on the merits, but there were children who couldn’t read or add back when previous lawsuits went nowhere.
The court ruled that schools do not have a specific responsibility to any individual student or his/her family.
You can take a horse to water...
Usually the child’s/student’s rights to an education is part of a State’s constitution.
If he were that concerned, he’d have done independent study at school and at home. I’m betting he joined right in with the rest of his homies causing trouble in class.
♪ kids picking on you ♪ well, don't be sad ♪ just sue their asses ♪ with kyle's dad.
It’s against the rules in many lib school districts to fail any student.
In that case, we may hope for a different outcome.
I'm struggling right now with a son who doesn't want to try very hard at community college. He likes going to class - always tells me, when I drive him home, about things that interested him - but he doesn't want to work steadily.
I wish it was easier for an 18-year-old to get a full-time job!
Conspicuously absent from this summary and from the entire article is the word "union". It's not that the schools don't spend enough, it's that they don't spend it on the right things. The unions certainly get a bunch.
Yet, you’re not holding him accountable. No reason he couldn’t pick up a book on his own.
The problem is these kids think because they get a high school diploma..it is like everybody else..and when they cannot hold a job because they know nothing...they think it is racism..
They should be able to sue the school system in a class action suite..
One person probably not get far
So Jamearria is flunking remedial English at the junior College level, so she’s complaining that the high school gave in to the blacks’ demands to let them skate through high school English or else they would sue the schools for discrimation.
It is becoming my ever firmer belief that blacks and whites will never be able to peacefully coexist together.
Any math class beyond algebra in high school such as geometry is a waste of time unless you intend to become an engineer.
Geometry was the only class I flunked in high school. And to this day, there has never been one occasion where I needed it.
Schools are a reflection of the community. If you want better schools change the culture of the community.
NEA made that bed along with affirmative action and the victimhood both push. No sympathy for ignorance or poor voting habits.
Then he can deal with this in a state court.
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