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1 posted on 10/17/2019 11:39:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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But if it is dropped on the 1/3 + 1 Senators at EXACTLY the right time, with rallies in their States, pressure from their donors and future employers, and amplified by the din of the "stars" to address the foolish and the "media" to address the thinkers, it is just barely possible they can get to 67.

Sorry, I just don't see 20 Republican votes to convict.

2 posted on 10/17/2019 11:41:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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The Left wanted Nixon impeached in his first term, long before Watergate.

They didn’t want Reagan sworn in and wanted to pursue impeachment over Iran Contra in his second term. They wanted Bush out in his first term because of conspiracies about the 1980 hostages release. They wanted Bush II out in his first term and wanted Abu Ghraib as the excuse.

The peaceful transfer of power was gone by 1960.


3 posted on 10/17/2019 11:42:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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I think “they” took out JFK.
I think “they” took out Nixon.
I think “they” are desperate to take out Trump.


5 posted on 10/17/2019 11:43:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Why would you be surprised? The Democrats only have one playbook, and it’s not very thick. They run the same plays over and over and over and over.

But just as in actual football the more you run a play the less effective it becomes. They got Nixon because in the three channel universe of 1974 they managed to drive his approval number among REPUBLICANS into the 20’s.

Trump is at 90+% with Republicans and it’s solid. The scam is not going to work this time.

Like you, once they’ve exhausted all options, I’m worried about the ol’ .38 caliber electoral vote.


7 posted on 10/17/2019 11:44:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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We need to retake the house in 2020.

But we also need to hold the senate.
“The U.S. Senate has 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats (including two independents). There are 35 seats up in 2020 - including special elections in Arizona and Georgia - of which 23 are held by the GOP. Democrats will need to gain 3 or 4 seats to take control.” - https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-election/


11 posted on 10/17/2019 11:51:55 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Yes, I think it needs to be stopped in the Senate.


13 posted on 10/17/2019 11:52:12 AM PDT by Innovative (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/maria-bartiromo-walks-back-scoop-on-release-date-for-fisa-re)
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If Trump is removed we will have a civil war.


14 posted on 10/17/2019 11:52:13 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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This Kangaroo Court cannot be compared to the Watergate or Clinton Impeachments. There is no due process. A Speaker who received only about 275,000 votes is attempting to impeach a President of the United States who received over 60,000,000 votes secretly behind closed doors.
POTUS is being railroaded by Madame Jacka$$ who is in cahoots with the Intel Community, the State Department, the FBI and parts of the DOJ.

It’s disgusting.

15 posted on 10/17/2019 11:53:24 AM PDT by Chgogal (Trump: Make America Great Again. Democrat: Make America Mexico Again.)
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There will be no impeachment...........................


17 posted on 10/17/2019 11:54:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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That's a very interesting perspective, and I'm too young to remember Nixon and Watergate. But let's look at a few other things here:

Nixon may have won in a landslide in 1972, but by 1974 the public scene had changed dramatically. Not only did we have the turmoil of the Arab oil embargo in our energy markets, but just look at this comparison of key economic indicators between 1972 and 1974:

1. Unemployment rate: 5.2% (1972) vs. 7.2% (1974)

2. GDP growth: 5.3% (1972) vs. -0.5% (1974)

3. Inflation: 3.4% (1972) vs. 12.3% (1974)

That 1974 inflation figure is staggering. In fact, the combination of negative GDP growth and high inflation made 1974 one of the worst "economic misery" years of the post-WW2 period, rivaling 1946 and 1979-1980.

18 posted on 10/17/2019 11:55:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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POTUS needs to sue Madame Speaker.


19 posted on 10/17/2019 11:55:39 AM PDT by Chgogal (Trump: Make America Great Again. Democrat: Make America Mexico Again.)
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If the House votes for Impeachment based upon the current investigations being conducted it would be the biggest travesty in US History. These investigations are illegitimate since they did not allow the minority to question witnesses, subpoena there own witnesses etc. In fact the subpoenas themselves are illegal. The Constutution says that the House shall initiate Impeachment proceedings, not the Speaker of the House acting unilaterally without conducting a vote of the whole House on weather to proceed. I’ve heard many people on television say that the House can decide for itself what is impeachable but the Constitution says a law must have been broken, “high crimes and misdemeanors”. What law has Trump broken?


22 posted on 10/17/2019 11:56:48 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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No dont stop. Bring it to it’s inevitable conclusion. We have Marxists running much of federal and local government. Time to take out the garbage.


24 posted on 10/17/2019 11:57:58 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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It must be remembered that Nixon resigned before he was impeached solely because he lost the support of fellow Republicans.

And has Trump also lost that support? One only needs to look at the House vote against him yesterday.

354-60. Including 129 Repukes.


26 posted on 10/17/2019 12:01:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Current speaker went for meeting with President and others ie some ranking GOP ranking committee members, Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff, etc., speaker yelled at the President then stormed out of the meeting in her way out criticizing WH staffers as incompetents. Deputy Press Secretary said not first time incumbent speaker spoke rudely to the President then stormed out of the meeting. Aren’t there video cameras covering the meeting? Can the White House release the video how the speaker acted arrogantly?


29 posted on 10/17/2019 12:03:47 PM PDT by wannabegeek
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There's no way that impeachment will be stopped. To quote one Rat Congresscritter (can't recall which one) "if we don't impeach him he'll be reelected".

The only question is what will be the vote in the Senate? Of course every Rat will vote to remove as will Mittens...and maybe one or two other RINOs. So they'll be about 15 votes shy of removal.

31 posted on 10/17/2019 12:06:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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This can’t be compared to Nixon. Nixon actually did what they thought he did in that he tried to hide the illegal actions of his friends. Trump didn’t and they can’t figure out a way to prove he did without evidence of it. One was guilty and should have been impeached and found guilty but he resigned. The other didn’t do anything illegal, can’t be found guilty of nothing, and is not going to resign.

rwood


32 posted on 10/17/2019 12:08:54 PM PDT by Redwood71
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Here’s an interesting article about Watergate. It’ll inform a lot of us - those who were aware of what was going on, and even those who weren’t born yet:

https://crankynotions.com/2012/08/22/forty-years-on-and-watergate-still-doesnt-make-sense/


41 posted on 10/17/2019 12:18:02 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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You are borrowing trouble, there is no comparison. Nixon's circumstance and Trumps's are as unalike as chalk and cheese.

Nixon resigned because his voting base deserted him, which undermined his support from his party. As yet, not only is Trump's base not deserting him, his approval rate is the most unwavering of any president since they began tracking the statistic.

Nixon loathed the press, and was loathed by them. He intensely disliked having to deal with them and never learned the knack of getting the best of them.

Trump is loathed by the press but he relishes the intellectual jousts with them because he routinely makes them look foolish and amateurish. He makes them dance before him like puppets on strings.

And why stop impeachment? If they impeach but can't convict (and there is exactly ZERO chance of conviction), it will cost the demoncrats dearly at the ballot box.

I think the best course is to heed the advice of the Napoleon Bonaparte when he said "...[W]hen the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him."

43 posted on 10/17/2019 12:21:07 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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“But it IS very odd that it happened,”

Predictable after his outing all the communists.


49 posted on 10/17/2019 12:32:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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