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Mike Pence’s Team Propose Quick Execution for Mass Shooters
New York Post ^ | September 2, 2019 | Nikki Schwab

Posted on 09/02/2019 12:04:46 PM PDT by livius

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To: livius

COME ON guys, like 90 percent of these guys give a #### about dying. SMH

Just committing these acts leaves quite a high risk of ending up....DEAD.

More nonsense to appease the masses.

I think they should be executed but it won’t stop 3 percent of these attacks.

I’m surprised so many here think it will.

You’re thinking like sane people.

That word left these guys’ vocabulary a LONG time ago.


101 posted on 09/02/2019 6:33:10 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Murder is a State crime when said offense is under State purview. When it is under Federal purview, as on Federal property or against a Federal official. Seed Federal Death Row inmate offenses to understand more.


102 posted on 09/02/2019 6:44:12 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: livius

From the story clip:

“...Attorney General William Barr on the death penalty bill, which will likely be part of a larger gun control package the White House will try to sell to Congress amid a wave of shooting massacres,...”

If such a proposal is part of a “gun control package” then I hope this does not pass Congress or is signed into law by Trump.

If it is such an important proposal to deter future mass shootings, then it should be a proposal on it’s own. Not part of some anti-2nd Amendment nonsense.


103 posted on 09/02/2019 6:55:14 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: livius

I’d rather keep them in a cage and try, over a period of time characterized by complaints of discomfort, to determine which Manchurian Candidate school they graduated from and who was their commanding officer?


104 posted on 09/02/2019 7:32:55 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: IndispensableDestiny

”Should not be a Federal issue. Murder is a state crime. Pense and the DoJ should stay out.“

Agreed. You’re absolutely right.


105 posted on 09/02/2019 7:34:38 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: IndispensableDestiny
Should not be a Federal issue. Murder is a state crime. Pense and the DoJ should stay out.

Normally true, but there are circumstances when it could be a federal matter (e.g., murder over State lines, on a military installation, in a territory or in DC).

106 posted on 09/02/2019 7:44:30 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Domestic terrorism could be a Federal crime with expedited trials and if convicted speedy executions. Could house them in Gitmo.


107 posted on 09/02/2019 7:49:24 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: david1292

It’ll save the taxpayer the cost of their life sentence.


108 posted on 09/02/2019 7:56:15 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: livius

“...will likely be part of a larger gun control package...”

CAVEAT EMPTOR


109 posted on 09/02/2019 9:00:17 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: RandallFlagg

SPOT ON!


110 posted on 09/02/2019 9:02:42 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: bigbob

I agree.


111 posted on 09/02/2019 9:55:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fast Track


112 posted on 09/02/2019 11:10:40 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: livius
"...a larger gun control package the White House will try to sell to Congress..."

Don't do it, Mr President. You'll lose massive amounts of support if you go down this road.

113 posted on 09/03/2019 1:27:53 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: bigbob
I’d like to also see a news blackout.

Won't do any good. Most of these psycho killers aren't seeking notoriety or self aggrandizement. They kill because they're nuts.

114 posted on 09/03/2019 1:29:52 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: livius

Never happen. These mass murderers in most cases will plead not guilty on insanity and there you go, off Scott free.


115 posted on 09/03/2019 1:29:54 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
Personally I’d rather a stronger VP pick for ‘20, like Allen West.

Notice Pence's name doesn't appear on the Trump 2020 banner.

116 posted on 09/03/2019 1:31:33 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: livius

Make it so.

And make it execution by firing squad.


117 posted on 09/03/2019 2:28:58 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: precisionshootist

has to be execution carried out publicly such as the guillotine, no later than 5 weeks after the crime. screw “cruel and unusual.” That will deter the large majority of them. Also bring back dads and discipline. The neutering of the western male by “strong females” (aka harpies who alienate dad then take his wallet with gov’t backing) are out of control.


118 posted on 09/03/2019 3:34:28 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU
"has to be execution carried out publicly such as the guillotine, no later than 5 weeks after the crime. screw “cruel and unusual.” That will deter the large majority of them. Also bring back dads and discipline. The neutering of the western male by “strong females” (aka harpies who alienate dad then take his wallet with gov’t backing) are out of control"

Pence, is proposing something very dangerous and is not based on any sound logic in any way. Premeditated Murder is a crime in every state and is clearly defined. Trying to add the undefined "mass shooter" qualifier is the same as the ambiguous and purely subjective "hate crime". Ask yourself what is the definition of a "mass shooter" and how is this crime clearly differentiated from any other premeditated murder? Is a "mass shooter" someone who kills two or more people? What if the person clearly intended to kill more than one person but was stopped after he killed only one? What if someone kills someone else but there were many other people in the immediate area that could have been killed? are these "mass shootings".

What Pence is proposing is exactly the same as "hate crimes". It's something that can't be clearly defined by anyone yet will determine punishment for this crime. This is not justice and it opens the door for punishment that does not fit the crime or in fact is cruel and unusual.

In death penalty cases we don't rush because the punishment can't be undone. If a "mass shooter", something that can't be defined, is deserving of quick execution then ALL premeditated murder is deserving of quick execution.

Pence is demonstrating flawed and frankly liberal emotional type thinking.

119 posted on 09/03/2019 5:03:26 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: livius

How about quick ones for Child Rapist/Killers who leave DNA proof? 25+ yrs to get to the Fed appeal level, means at least 10 more yrs before the creep is executed for the Beating, Rape and Killing of a 8 yr old little girl.


120 posted on 09/03/2019 5:44:51 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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