Posted on 08/20/2019 4:08:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
Imagine a group of people who work to destroy Italy because, they claim, Italy's origins are illegitimate. Imagine further that these people maintain that of all the countries in the world, only Italy is illegitimate. And then imagine that these people vigorously deny they are in any way anti-Italian. Would you believe them? Or would you dismiss their argument as not only dishonest but absurd?
Substitute "Israel" for "Italy" and "Jew" for "Italian" and you'll understand the dishonesty and absurdity of the argument that one can be anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic.
But that is precisely what anti-Zionists say. They argue that the very existence of a Jewish state in the geographic area known as Palestine -- there was never an independent country known as Palestine -- is illegitimate. They do not believe any other country in the world is illegitimate, no matter how bloody its origins. And then they get offended when they're accused of being anti-Semitic.
How can they make this argument?
First, they change the topic. They say it is unfair to charge those who merely "criticize" Israel with being anti-Semitic. But I don't know anyone who does that. It's a phony argument. Criticism of Israel is fine. Denying Israel's right to exist is not. Anti-Zionism is not criticism of Israel. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Israel's existence.
Zionism is the movement for the return of Jews to their ancient homeland, Israel. Over the past 3,000 years, there were two independent Jewish states located in what is called Israel. Both were destroyed by invaders, and no Arab or Muslim or any other independent country ever existed in that land, which was only named Palestine by the Romans in an attempt to remove all memory of the Jewish state they destroyed in the year A.D. 70.
Second, anti-Zionists claim they can't be anti-Jewish because Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. That, too, is equally false. It is the same as saying that Italy has nothing to do with being Italian. Judaism has always consisted of three components: God, Torah and Israel. If Israel isn't part of Judaism, neither is the Bible or God.
Third, anti-Zionists claim that Judaism is only a religion; therefore, Jews are only members of a religion, not a nation. But the Jews are called the "nation of Israel" repeatedly in the Bible. That is why there are irreligious, secular and even atheist Jews -- because Jews are not only a religion. There are no atheist Christians because Christianity is only a religion.
Fourth, the anti-Zionists claim that Israel is illegitimate because it is racist. This is the charge Israel- and America-haters make against two of the least racist societies in the world. In the case of Israel, it is fraudulent because:
a) Half of Israel's Jews are not white.
b) Anyone, of any race or ethnicity, can become a Jew.
c) One out of every 5 Israelis is not a Jew. And these Israeli citizens -- mostly Arab Muslims -- have the same rights as Jewish Israelis.
d) Israel's control of the West Bank has nothing to do with "race." Israel does not control the West Bank because Palestinians are of another race but because Palestinians tried to destroy Israel in 1967, and they lost the war. The only reason Palestinians do not have their own state has nothing to do with race: They rejected offers to found their own state on five separate occasions since 1948. They have always rejected building a Palestinian state because they have always been more interested in destroying Israel.
Fifth, the anti-Zionists claim that Israel's origins are illegitimate.
The fact that, of all the world's 200-plus countries, the only country anti-Zionists declare illegitimate is also the only Jewish country is pretty much all you need to know about their motives. Why, for example, don't they make this claim about Pakistan? In 1947, nine months before the establishment of Israel, India was partitioned into a Muslim state -- Pakistan -- and a Hindu state -- India.
Unlike Israel, Pakistan had never existed before.
Unlike Israel's founding, which created about 700,000 Jewish refugees from Arab lands and 700,000 Arab refugees from what became Israel, the founding of Pakistan created about 7 million Muslim refugees from India and about 7 million Hindu refugees from Pakistan. And while the highest estimate of Arab deaths in the fighting that took place when Israel announced its establishment is 10,000, the number of deaths as a result of Pakistan's creation is around 1 million.
Given these facts, why is Israel's legitimacy challenged while the legitimacy of Pakistan isn't? There's only one answer: Israel is the one Jewish state in the world. So, while there are 49 Muslim-majority countries and 22 Arab states, anti-Zionists reject the right of the one Jewish state -- the size of New Jersey -- to exist.
Of course, not all anti-Zionists hate all Jews. But as I wrote at the beginning, if you seek to destroy Italy, you don't have to hate every Italian to be anti-Italian. If you seek to destroy the only Jewish state on Earth, you don't have to hate every Jew to be an anti-Semite.
To be fair, they also believe the existence and origins of America are illegitimate, and seek to destroy it. But otherwise, well taken.
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My homeland was replaced by “Magic Dirt” soon Dennis’ homeland will stand alone and be the sore the globalist West picks at forever till it collapses. Thanks Dennis you Trotskyite.
This idiot should drink coffee and then read what he as written before he posts. I don’t know what he is trying to say in this confused mess, but it is headed in a very dangerous direction.
Ok, I better understand what he is trying to say. He needs a good edit to get that up front before he posts because I can read this as Israel bashing is ok so long as you are criticizing Israel and not jews who by the way are not a “race” so there can be no racism against jews.
I realize that is not what he is Actually saying, but it sure comes across that way to someone who skims an article before deciding to read the whole thing.
exactly- calling a nation ‘illegitimate’ and supporting hate/terrorist groups that want to annihilate that nation is Antisemitism - and ilhan and tlaib and others are pure vile antisemites - they don’t just criticize Israel- they also want them to disappear by supporting terroristic groups like they do- this makes them hateful
Hey squad- scuze my french- but piss off!
It is like the people who say they like jewish people but not Israeli jews… like someone saying they like French people but not French people in France . Absolute nonsense.
What is worse, is that ISraelies are more legit refugees than the other jews in other countries. Not sure what is the beef between Eastern refuseniks or Iranian jews hating on Israel, but these refuseniks and what not simply stay in their respective places because they are well off enough to dominate society. As a black conservative said, every democrat owned black slaves once in America, you had Indians, Hispanics, blacks and jews owning slaves.
To see these jewish people distancing themselves from ISrael and fueling the idiocy game of the anti-Semites is absolute nonsense. But I suppose a jewish democrat would be tempted to project their own guilt on Israel or conservative jews in America, denouncing them, like happened to Dr Laura.
If that's the working definition of Zionism then I'm absolutely against it. If Europeans or someone other than the US wants to wage generations long war in the ME to help Israel take all that land, meh, let them all bleed one another as long as they like.
JMHo
The globalists attack the very notion of nationalism, borders, religion and the distinctiveness of cultures. They are discreet who and when they attack. Right now their target is Israel and the United States. At the core of the Left there is globalism. Their aim is one world government, socialism and procreation control.
>>Imagine a group of people who work to destroy Italy because, they claim, Italy’s origins are illegitimate.
Every damn day the Left tries to make the case that the United States’ origins are illegitimate. They are tearing down statues, painting over murals, and indoctrinating children with Howard Zinn’s Communist manifesto against America.
Dennis Prager is on the air 2-3 hours a day (depending on your local station) and also available streaming on the web. you’ll find longer discussions of what he writes about and can also call in to dispute or clarify.
I don’t hear much about it in the Media, but I keep wondering
How all this Anti Israel etc. talk by the “Squad” and other Democrats is going to affect the traditional Democrat Jewish Vote in 2020. Does anybody out there know of a Poll on this?
I don’t know how much f this is going to affect the Traditional Democrat Jewish vote in 2020, but Zogby says that as of now trump would get 28% of the Black Vote and 49% of the Hispanic vote. If those figures are correct and hold up through the 2020 election, the Democrats are “Dead”.
The Torah delineates the borders of Israel proper as an eternal, irrevocable inheritance of the Jewish people. Simple. However the Bible decrees that the nations will join themselves to Israel in the days of Messiah. They will come to the Temple on Jerusalem to worship the King of the Universe. The entire world then will be incorporated into the Commonwealth of Israel, and all people will enjoy the blessings of the Kingdom of G-d. This is the inevitable process of History, and it cannot be stopped; delayed, yes, but not stopped. The Redemption of Mankind will not come another way.
You left out the part where the Messiah will slaughter most of the nations, as well as wicked Jews, and it will be ‘remnants’ of the nations who will go to Jerusalem to celebrate Sukkot.
Like it or not a) The promise that Israel would rule from the Euphrates to the Nile was fulfilled under Solomon, and b) that guy the Talmud says is in burning feces up to His ears for all eternity is the Messiah who came to redeem all men, not just the Jews.
The Redemption of Mankind has come and you reject Him.
“Criticism of Israel Is Not Anti-Semitism; Anti-Zionism Is”
You can be a critic of Israel without being an ant-semite. That said, one thing I have noticed over the decades is it is often a short step from “I’m not an anti-semite, I’m an anti-zionist” to judenfrei.
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A good article
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