Trump Is Unlikely To Commit Political Suicide by Betraying Us On Guns

Townhall ^ | August 12, 2019 | Kurt Schlichter

[2ndDivisionVet]

All the policemen and soldiers in the world couldn’t disarm San Bernardino County. So how could they confiscate everyone’s weapons?

[TTFlyer]

So defending the 2A is being a “purist?” Call me a purist then. No President, including Trump, is greater than the Bill of Rights. Period. Trump caves to the RINOs and the Left he is done. As is America.

[TTFlyer]

Says you.

[Hugh the Scot]

Maybe you...

[Nifster]

I did not say that. People who say things like screw Trump if “cuz happens” I won’t vote for him again......those people are cra cra purists. NO ONE is going to be perfect in agreeing with you.

Trump has said some things that are concerning. He hasn’t pointed to a specific bill. That matters. I also think it matters that we work to get current laws enforced. That would have maybe stopped some shooter (Parkland)

When people say let the revolution begin it concerns me mightily. Most people are not ready for that kind of violence. I have never killed another person. Most have not. The French,Russian,German, and Chinese revolutions were bloody as hell. The good guys did not win

[Pollard]

Here’s the three proposed “Extreme Risk Protection Order” ERPO Acts. Don’t we just love the word “Extreme”. What have they been called people? Right wing Extremists?

Rubio’s
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/7/text

Feinstein’s
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/506/text

Blumenthal’s
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2521/text

Looking over all legislation introduced by Rubio. He’s a busy little guy. Looking at the titles, while thinking about him being one generation away from communism makes the noddle itch.

Same with the other two, being dems, just thinking along the lines of socialism/communism while looking over their proposed legislation gives one the creeps.

Any fed law that gives money & guidance(rules) to the States to enact laws is just a work around to actual fed laws.

The above ERPO laws mention “family” or even people that live together or ex-wife or girlfriend/boyfriend. “Mental Health professionals”. How many of those are conservatives? Judges. State Attorney Generals. Soros has poured millions into getting “progressive” AGs in place.

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** Some excerpts **

Rubio’s

“(3) the term ‘family or household member’ means, with respect to an individual, any—

“(A) individual related by blood, marriage, or adoption to the respondent;

“(B) dating partner (as defined in section 2266 of title 18, United States Code) of the respondent;

“(C) individual who has a child in common with the respondent, regardless of whether the individual has—

“(i) been married to the respondent; or

“(ii) lived together with the respondent at any time;

“(D) an individual who resides or has resided with the respondent during the past year;

“(E) a spouse or intimate partner (as defined in section 2266 of title 18, United States Code) of the respondent;

“(F) individual who has a biological or legal parent-child relationship with the respondent, including a stepparent-stepchild and grandparent-grandchild relationship; and

“(G) any individual who is acting or has acted as the legal guardian of the respondent;

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Feinstein’s is just way too vague

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Blumenthal’s (again with the ex-partners and children - what could go wrong?)

“(5) the term ‘family or household member’, with respect to a respondent, means any—

“(A) parent, spouse, sibling, or child related by blood, marriage, or adoption to the respondent;

“(B) dating partner of the respondent;

“(C) individual who has a child in common with the respondent, regardless of whether the individual has—

“(i) been married to the respondent; or

“(ii) lived together with the respondent at any time;

“(D) individual who resides or has resided with the respondent during the past year;

“(E) domestic partner of the respondent;

“(F) individual who has a legal parent-child relationship with the respondent, including a stepparent-stepchild and grandparent-grandchild relationship; and

“(G) individual who is acting or has acted as the legal guardian of the respondent;

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Both of the above allow children to petition a judge to have your guns removed. Isn’t that special. (angry child or ex + lefty judge = bye bye guns)

Blum’s says “dating partner” - can you say Fatal Attraction? - The crazy/hot matrix takes on a new meaning

Any fed law that gives money & guidance(rules) to the States to enact laws is just a work around to actual fed laws.

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Most likely this will all blow over and/or Trump won’t sign a bill like above right?

But what the hell is Kurt thinking?

We’ve all heard of that one local judge who’s a real __________.

[_Jim]

Doesn’t he carry? Maybe not now, but, years back ...

[MountainWalker]

I posted this in another thread, but why are we discussing these things completely on the left’s terms? There’s not a shred of evidence that any of these killers would have been stopped by any “red flag” law. It stands to reason that CCW state to state restrictions keep soft targets softer than they should be, so any gun legislation should include national reciprocity.

[Dilbert56]

I always try to separate President Trump’s comments from his actions. He said he’d be fine being interviewed by Mueller, and then didn’t. He knew Jussie Smollett was lying but played along saying what happened to him was awful. Believe he’s doing the same thing here.

[chris37]

You literally don’t even need the stock.

You can bump fire a pistol.

The ban on bump stocks was a fool’s folly.

[Oldexpat]

Go ahead. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

[FLT-bird]

I agree with Kurt here. The constant drumbeat of doom by some here gets really old. Eg Trump’s gonna betray us on guns, Big Tech is gonna swing the election to the Donkeys, and even if they don’t massive voter fraud by the Donkeys will seal the election for them and even if by some chance these all fail, we’re gonna be buried demographically. We’re on the cusp of inevitable doom. DOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!

Sheesh. It’s a wonder some muster the energy to get out of bed in the morning.

[crusher]

“Every election is critical. The socialist/communist are very close. Every vote is critical”

But if the POTUS/GOP congresscrittters/GOP judges are implementing or deferring to the entire Maoist agenda (as they are), every vote is irrelevant. I do not believe that any clear-minded Declarationist/Constitutionalist patriot imagines that public policy is moving in our direction at all. It’s just that POTUS does not actively hate us, but his administration is still moving the ball in the wrong direction, only slower that the Maoists.

As I have said before, we will look back on his tenure as an almost unending list of missed opportunities. His victories on our behalf will be temporary and undone as soon as the next Maoist achieves The Presidency, the judges will see to that. If he had told the judges to stick to their authorized lanes I would think differently.

[Buckeye McFrog]

I think he is taking steps to the middle to appear reasonable and to placate certain centrist voters (like the vaunted suburban female vote).

He is secure in his knowledge that in the end the Democrats hate is friggin’ guts too much to actually sign-on to any deal.

[Buttons12]

Let the socialist win and let’s get the inevitable revolution started sooner.

Except those are not a package. Letting the socialist is a retreat, and it won't necessarily lead to a revolution. Retreat is not pushback. In fact, in these times, letting the socialist win is practically a surrender.

[Buckeye McFrog]

if by some chance these all fail, we’re gonna be buried demographically.

If you take a hard look at the numbers (and, like me, spend a lot of time talking to Millenials) that conclusion is inevitable.

[excalibur21]

GOP neocons and RINOs will force him to do that.

Have they ever forced Trump to do anything?

[FLT-bird]

The longer immigrants are in the US, the more likely they are to become Republicans. Hell, most “Hispanics” are cultural conservatives. Asians too - and they’ve discovered official discrimination in the form of “affirmative action” sucks.

I don’t see the cause for the unrelenting pessimism of some on our side.

[reformedliberal]

...Trump is woefully ignorant about firearms in general and the acquisition process through FFLs and Form 4473 that asks pointed questions, which, I believe, if you lie on the Form, has serious consequences.
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I doubt this. Trump carries. Don Jr. & Eric are hunters and I don’t think they learned that from their mothers or on their own.

Trump has his on-camera persona and his media caricature. I don’t believe either one portrays the true individual. For that, I look at his accomplishments.

I also factor in his negotiating style, which begins with being conciliatory and usually ends with winning. Sometimes the road to a win is convoluted, but the man is tenacious.

[Cobra64]

I concur with you on much of this. MOST people who carry know very little about firearms and the law. They call magazines, clips... cartridges, bullets, any semi auto, a Glock... an AR, an assault rifle... I was hoping DonJr., who reloads, would have brought Dad up to speed on the lingo and legal process of firearms acquisition.