Posted on 08/07/2019 6:53:56 PM PDT by lowbridge
The Second Amendment is why we cant go to school, or work, or a house of worship, or a nightclub, or a movie theater, or a music festival, or pretty much any public gathering without fear of getting shot to death. The Second Amendment is why you cant be immediately arrested for openly carrying around an assault rifle in a public place, and why you cant be immediately arrested for smuggling a hand-cannon in your gym shorts. The Second Amendment is how law enforcement justifies the need for military-grade armamentsto match the firepower they meet in the streets. The Second Amendment is why we have a generation of young people that is scarred or missing from gun violence. And the Second Amendment is why I had to tell my 6-year-old last night to act like Scaredy Squirrel and play dead if an active shooter storms his classroom, thereby mangling the whole moral of the books.
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Textually, the amendment itself is almost toothless and easily amenable to regulation. Hell, regulated is written right into its text: A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
See. You dont have to be a constitutional scholar to conclude that this amendment is talking about the need for militias, not an individuals right to own a bazooka; and you dont have to be a historian to noodle out that the founding fatherswho revolted against a global superpowerthought that state militias were pretty cool.
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It was only in the 1970s that the National Rifle Association basically invented the new constitutional theory that the Second Amendment conferred a personal right to own military grade weapons for self-defense.
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No.
Saw off, lib rag Nation, and take Ellie with you.
well thats low level thinking
I think go back to UK and call it a day
A well-regulated Militia,
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What they meant by this is well equipped.
The militia supplied their own weapons.
No. Simple. No.
Can’t repeal a God-given right.
After the Democrat government assault at Waco that killed children.....
No gun control.
Never.
The Democrats want to commit politicide on us.
This idiot doesn’t understand the purpose of the Second Amendment.
If their logic was correct then the stricter the gun laws in different state in the US, the strictest states concerning gun laws would have correspondingly lower gun homicides. Also false.
Gun laws have nothing to do with gun homicides. In fact, it seems that areas of the country that are gun free are actually more prone to gun homicide.
It was only in the 1970s that the National Rifle Association basically invented the new constitutional theory that the Second Amendment conferred a personal right to own military grade weapons for self-defense.
Bulls%#t. It was well known from the 1700s on that it meant personal ownership, not just militias.
We’ve got a real student of history here.
Let’s get rid of the first half. Have the Second Amendment simply read “The Right to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not be infringed.
One woman (and not very bright one..) opinion...
We should split the country before cw2.
This will not end well. I don’t know anyone who is giving up their guns.
Is that Ellie, the author of this drivel?
Following the Sandy Hook massacre, gun rights, gun laws and the Second Amendment have been the subject of a national dialogue. Any discussion of these topics is severely tainted by calculated messaging by the NRA to deceive and mislead our citizens to believe that the Second Amendment grants far reaching gun rights which have not and do not exist.The author then goes on to cite a number of prominent progressive judges and lawyers who all spout the "collective right" mythology.
The Second Amendment became part of our constitution in 1791. For well over two centuries the Supreme Court never decided that the Amendment granted a constitutional right to individuals to bear arms. The widely held notion that such a right existed was a myth fabricated by the NRA for its own self interest and for the corporate profits of gun manufacturers. This fabrication altered the mindset of most Americans to accept fictional Second Amendment rights that permitted the proliferation of all manner and kind of dangerous weapons. We became a gun culture run rampant. The gun manufacturers reaped enormous profits as gun sales soared. In 2011 industry wide gun sales were $4.3 billion. Misconceptions generated by the NRA created a warped interpretation of Second Amendment that generated these sales.
It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.There has been considerable scholarship on this issue and the idea that the second amendment was only considered a collective right for the first two centuries of its existence is simply laughable. There are a number of other cases quoted here.
The First Collective Rights DecisionHere is what Halbrook says about the above decision:
From the brief:
In Salina v. Blaksley , 72 Kan. 230, the court, in referring to the provision of the State Constitution declaring that the people had the right to bear arms for their defense and security, said (pp. 232- 233):
That the provision in question applies only to the right to bear arms as a member of the state militia, or some other military organization provided for by law, is also apparent from the second amendment to the federal constitution...
The liberal fascists went on to win the presidency under Hoover, and the presidency and both houses of Congress under Franklin Roosevelt. Then they enacted the first sweeping federal gun control law, the National Firearms Act of 1934. The act was soon challenged with a test case contrived by a "Progressive" judge designed to gain Supreme Court approval for the constitutionality of the law. Judge Ragon did not allow the defendant, Miller, to plead guilty as he desired, but carefully constructed a test case designed to circumvent the clear unconstitutionality of the National Firearms Act....in Salina v. Blaksley (1905), the Supreme Court of Kansas, in upholding a conviction for carrying a revolver while intoxicated, took a restrictive view of both of the relevant state constitutional provision, guaranteeing arms possession for defense and security, and of the federal Second Amendment: the court declared that only "the right to bear arms as a member of the state militia" was intended. Contrariwise, the court treated the federal provision as applicable to the states and agreed that the "legislature can regulate the mode of carrying deadly weapons, provided they are not such as are ordinarily used in civilized warfare" The collectivist approach taken in Salina, that the relevant constitutional provisions only referred to the right to bear arms in a military organization provided by law, "went further than any other case" except for the opinion of one concurring judge in the early Arkansas case of State v. Buzzard. [Emphasis added] This approach appears illogical on its face: the members of a military organization constitutionally provided for by state law could hardly need any state constitutional right to bear arms.Compare the above decision to one by the Michigan Supreme Court, People v. Brown (1931). Note this decision was only a few years before the Miller case, but we'll see why the government wouldn't quote anything from this case! Again Halbrook, quoting from People v. Brown:
When the bulwark of state defense was the militia, privately armed, there may have been good reason for the historical and military test of the right to bear arms. But in this state the militia, although legally existent and composed of all able-bodied male citizens...is practically extinct and has been superseded by the National Guard and reserve organizations... The historical test would render the constitutional provision lifeless. The protection of the Constitution is not limited to militiamen nor military purposes, in terms, but extends to "every person" to bear arms for the "defense of himself" as well as of the state.
In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.And, a little later:
The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.
Agreed
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