Posted on 07/28/2019 10:50:40 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
Recorded on June 6, 2019 in Italy.
Based on new evidence and knowledge that functioning proteins are extremely rare, should Darwin’s theory of evolution be dismissed, dissected, developed or replaced with a theory of intelligent design?
Has Darwinism really failed? Peter Robinson discusses it with David Berlinski, David Gelernter, and Stephen Meyer, who have raised doubts about Darwin’s theory in their two books and essay, respectively The Deniable Darwin, Darwin’s Doubt, and “Giving Up Darwin” (published in the Claremont Review of Books).
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new2 link- that was an old one- sorry for the confusion
http://creationdesign.org/english/whataretheodds.html
Gator, you failed to make any point which *proves* evolution.
When you can explain how inanimate matter can accidentally pattern itself into a single-celled life form, and moreover, how that original “paramecium” can explode naturalistically into an organ which fires 10 million billion synapses every second (the human brain), get back to me.
Look, I know, it sucks to realize that you have been duped about origins for your entire life. But you will feel liberated from an empty philosophy! Best, Bob
I don’t have to prove the theory. You have failed to disprove the theory.
“When you can explain how inanimate matter can accidentally pattern itself into a single-celled life form, and moreover, how that original “paramecium” can explode naturalistically into an organ which fires 10 million billion synapses every second (the human brain), get back to me.”
When you can elain how mass converts to energy get back to me.
“Look, I know, it sucks to realize that you have been duped about origins for your entire life. But you will feel liberated from an empty philosophy! Best, Bob’
You may know what its like to suck but I don’t.
“No, that would be “guided evolution”, which isn’t really a scientific theory, but a philosophical proposition.”
please cite any differences between ID and ‘guided evolution’.
It allows for the possibility that intelligence directed evolution. It doesn't definitively say that that occurred.
What??? A negative can't be proven. The burden of proof is always on the one saying something occurred.
” The burden of proof is always on the one saying something occurred. “
It is a proven theory. Up to you to disprove.
“What??? A negative can’t be proven.”
You logic makes no sense.
Arguing against Darwin and thinking you’re disproving evolution is like arguing against Ibn al-Khatib and thinking you’re disproving germ theory. Regardless what mistakes he might have made, his theory has been built upon by too many scientists greater than he, and shorn up by too much hard science and empirical data for the prattling on about those mistakes to amount to anything more than tilting at windmills.
I’m aware of nothing that proves evolution. Certainly not the fossils, which is what ignorant people believe.
For example if someone claimed you regularly molest little boys, how would you disprove that? All you could do is demand the accuser furnish evidence - but at that point you would have shifted the burden of proof to the accuser, the one saying it DID occur.
Russell's teapot is an analogy, formulated by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.In other types of questions, such as purely mathematical ones or maybe phenomena which can be mathematically modeled, it is possible to prove a negative. Math is purely abstract and is fundamentally different than proving a negative with respect to tangible events.Russell specifically applied his analogy in the context of religion.[1] He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.
“With respect to whether something occurred, the burden is always on the person claiming it did occur. It’s not possible to prove something didn’t occur. If you don’t see that you’re stupid. “
You missed the key word … unfalsifiable.
“With respect to whether something occurred, the burden is always on the person claiming it did occur. It’s not possible to prove something didn’t occur. If you don’t see that you’re stupid. “
Evolution is already accepted, proven theory. It us not my burden to prove it.
It will remain so until it is proven false.
Now go away until you you can talk science instead of mis-interpreting radical philosophers.
“I’m aware of nothing that proves evolution. Certainly not the fossils, which is what ignorant people believe.”
Get an education.
Well, for one thing, “guided evolution” doesn’t actually posit that there need be any discernible scientific evidence for the hand of some intelligent designer. It’s simply a philosophical proposition that some supernatural being guides the process of evolution, and since science does not deal with the supernatural, they don’t expect there to necessarily be any evidence of it.
“Well, for one thing, “guided evolution” doesn’t actually posit that there need be any discernible scientific evidence for the hand of some intelligent designer. It’s simply a philosophical proposition that some supernatural being guides the process of evolution, and since science does not deal with the supernatural, they don’t expect there to necessarily be any evidence of it.”
The reality is that ID is guided evolution wrapped in science terms to fool the gullible.
I love Berlinski’s cow to whale discussion.
Gator, Bud, you may be a mathematical genius, but knowing that a heart, ear, eye, brain, kidney, pancreas, wing, etc, etc, cannot “evolve” from random mutations over billions of years is just plain common sense.
You have to shut down your faculties to believe in Darwinism.
BTW, which evolved first, bones, muscles, ligaments or tendons? And how do they function w/o all being in place at once?
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