Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

British Leaks Describe Trumpís ĎAct of Diplomatic Vandalismí on Iran Deal
Nytimes.com ^ | 7/13/19 | Benjamin Mueller

Posted on 07/14/2019 3:46:31 AM PDT by cotton1706

LONDON — It was just hours after Boris Johnson, then Britain’s foreign secretary, returned to London from a whirlwind trip last year to try to persuade the White House to abide by the Iran nuclear accord.

Kim Darroch, then the British ambassador to the United States, fired off a withering assessment of President Trump’s wish to quit the deal. Mr. Trump, he wrote in leaked diplomatic cables that were published on Saturday, was “set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons — it was Obama’s deal.”

The vice president, the national security adviser and the secretary of state had all failed to “articulate why the president was determined to withdraw, beyond his campaign promises,” Mr. Darroch wrote. And the American government had no plan for what would follow.

“Even when you pressed,” Mr. Darroch wrote to Mr. Johnson, “none had anything much to say about the day after, or a Plan B, beyond reimposition of U.S. sanctions.”

With Iran and the United States now locked in an escalating standoff, the leaked cables offered a window into Britain’s frantic effort to save the Iran nuclear deal in May 2018 — and the Trump administration’s indifference to its entreaties.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: borisjohnson; brexit; brexitparty; christophersteele; darroch; deepstate; elections; iran; irandeal; kimdarroch; libmyths; nigelfarage; pettymeme; steeledossier; unitedkingdom
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last
This is how they think. Once one of the Oligarchy's plans has been successfully implemented, it should not be changed.
1 posted on 07/14/2019 3:46:31 AM PDT by cotton1706
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: cotton1706
Once one of the Oligarchy's plans has been successfully implemented, it should not be changed.

Hence the word globalist. Trump is fighting largely alone, both internationally and domestically.

2 posted on 07/14/2019 3:50:59 AM PDT by JonPreston
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

Did anything, anything good come out of the Obama Administration?

Anything?


3 posted on 07/14/2019 3:52:56 AM PDT by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gasport

Yes, it came to an end. He had the reverse midas touch.


4 posted on 07/14/2019 4:03:52 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

So this puts their remarks in context. To them, PDJT had to be crazy to repudiate the Iran “deal.” No, in fact he was the one to say the emperor was unclothed. To the diplomats, it was all about the process. The content matters not. Picture Neville Chamberlain with his deal in hand.


5 posted on 07/14/2019 4:06:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gasport

They did obtain some heavy water for one of our labs. other than that, no.


6 posted on 07/14/2019 4:09:59 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

To bad President Trump couldn’t have fully reversed Obama’s deal and taken back the pallets of cash we gave them.


7 posted on 07/14/2019 4:15:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

Now we know the reason for the leak of the Ambassador’s cables. I see Kerry and Obama’s hands in all of this. They are pissed that Trump got out of the Iran deal.


8 posted on 07/14/2019 4:22:28 AM PDT by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706
an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons — it was Obama’s deal.

Ambassador Darroch's quoted statement is flatly untrue. Trump made plain his objections to the Iran deal which included: 1) it permitted them to get an atomic bomb over time; 2) it did not prohibit them obtaining ICBMs; 3) the inspection regime was inadequate even during its lifetime. 4) there was no check on Iran continuing to foment terrorism.

The ambassador might have culled these reasons from prevalent news reports but instead he chose to psychoanalyze the president's motives.

This whole episode reveals the common mindset between leftists in America and the prevailing establishment throughout Europe. The atmosphere was so tainted that the ambassador who should be tasked only to forward genuine intelligence felt comfortable resorting to Charles Schultz' style psychoanalysis. The same atmosphere obtains in England and explains why Boris Johnson had to to climb down from his lack of support for the ambassador


9 posted on 07/14/2019 4:23:44 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706
"Iran deal."

It was never a "deal", except for Iran.

It wasn't a treaty, or anything close. It was a payoff.


Billions in pallets of cash and gold. Billions, not millions.

Obama actually went on TV and said he couldn't send electronic transfers to Iran. He did this after it was discovered he sent them pallets in cash (there were actually more flights after this that the media did not know about).

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/08/iran-ransom-payment-barack-obama-tried-be-sneaky/

The cash that was sent was not traceable.

Want to guess who got a "cut" of the cash and gold?

10 posted on 07/14/2019 4:33:13 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

Yeah, right, no one had anything bad to say about the Iran deal till Trump came along.


11 posted on 07/14/2019 4:36:28 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

——And the American government had no plan for what would follow.-——

There was a secret plan that is presently functioning very well

The essence of the plan:
Iran must capitulate or be beset with very painful circumstances. For President Trump the plan outcome was a win win fork.

Although Iranian denuclearization is harped on, an equally important or perhaps more important goal is the destruction of Iran’s program of terrorism and out and out war by surrogates. The heavy sanctions have severely impacted that capability by drying up the money to fund the program.

The article mentions a brit diplomat trip to Japan. Trump rescinded the japanese sanction waiver and others on Iranian oil sales. He then made a diplomatic coup by providing replacement oil at a good price from the GCC and USA. That little piece of diplomacy was beyond the comprehension and grasp of a stodgy Brit diplomat.

That diplomacy was also a win win. Iran lost the sale and the GCC coalition allies and usa gained sales. Japan was pleased to assist and ended up no worse off.

This series of diplomatic and purely business very destructive attacks on Iran are never given the credit for the enormous inpact effected. Trump literally screwed Iran to the wall while pleasing the coalition and their mutual customers.

The above is pretty much fact. What follows is supposition. We don’t know wat we don’t know. We don’t know if there is in fact an Iranian nuclear weapon program anywhere near complete. The weapon has been speculated for completion in 12 or 18 months for nearly 20 years now.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are existentially threatened by Iran. Their covert actions in Iran have wreaked havoc and are secret. We know that the program has been set back on several occassions by who knows who did the deed. There is no need to tell the world.

President Trump knows.


12 posted on 07/14/2019 4:38:16 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gasport

of course.....

Africanization of America was increased and enhanced by the likes of the Black Congressional caucus that are ProAfrican rather than proAmerican.

Queers came out of the closets in literal droves.


13 posted on 07/14/2019 4:42:15 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: gasport

You mean for the USA? Absolutely not, that was completely against his mission that his masters at the Muslim brotherhood assigned him. His mission was spread Islam as much as possible while kicking the legs out from the USA and its allies on every single level and he pretty much succeeded didn’t he. Countries in Europe are well on their way to becoming Islamic states, we have Sharia supremacists in Congress and our government has never been more corrupt fighting against the citizens everyday to turn the country into a 3rd world socialist hellhole


14 posted on 07/14/2019 4:44:04 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706
It was just hours after Boris Johnson, then Britain’s foreign secretary, returned to London from a whirlwind trip last year to try to persuade the White House to abide by the Iran nuclear accord.

So are all these leaks an attempt to weaken Johnson's attempt to become party leader and Prime Minister?

15 posted on 07/14/2019 4:48:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gasport
Did anything, anything good come out of the Obama Administration? Anything?

According to Robert J. O'Neill, the Navy SEAL who shot Osama Bin Laden, when they were holding the final briefing before the operation to kill Bin Laden Obama was in attendance. He offered full support and pledged that if the SEALs came under fire from Pakistani forces he would send in the personnel to "rain Hell on them". O'Neill said that although SEALs were Conservative by nature they gained a lot of respect for Obama that day.

Of course Obama could have weaseled out if anything bad actually did happen but since nothing did and we will never know for sure that would be one good thing that he did to support our guys.

16 posted on 07/14/2019 4:51:13 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: JonPreston

TOMMY ROBINSON A UK CITIZEN JAILED FOR SPEAKING OUT, young UK girls are being gang raped at an alarming rate by muslim Pakistani men the government knows about but wants to keep it hidden. This is the story that needs to be told


17 posted on 07/14/2019 4:51:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kabar
"I see Kerry and Obama’s hands in all of this. They are pissed that Trump got out of the Iran deal."

Yeah... It kinda makes you wonder what they may have personally got out of that deal... Many politicians seem to get richer after they get out of the business...

18 posted on 07/14/2019 4:56:14 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

Yes, the latest is that Iran is cheating because Trump pulled out from the deal.

This is the narrative that Obama/Kerry want the media to run with. The British are fully on board.

Unfortunately, the media and UN published stories in 2016 about Iran cheating on the Obama nuclear deal.

Stories like this one:

https://www.newsweek.com/why-obama-ignoring-iran-cheating-nuke-deal-479689


19 posted on 07/14/2019 5:02:04 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-mob)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg

Was Boris in on it?


20 posted on 07/14/2019 5:02:41 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson