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'The Situation Is Very Vulnerable': Iran-Backed Militias Ethnically Cleansing Northen Iraq
The Telegraph ^ | 7/12/2019 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 07/13/2019 8:55:35 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

The official story is that northern Iraq is at peace. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) has largely been defeated; the Iraqi Army and its allies are in charge. But for Christians, the persecution continues.

Those who can are getting out. Those who stay are preparing themselves for more violence. "Things are bad more than any other time," Fr Behnam Benoka tells me at his church in Bartella, a ghost town protected, if that's the right word, by soldiers with Kalashnikovs. "It's harder even than before Isil."

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To: Its All Over Except ...

-—The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil)...-—

By the way, obama constantly referred to ‘isil’, instead of isis. The Levant is a direct slap to Israel, as the levant is about a ME without Israel anywhere - at all.

As in...wiped off the map.


21 posted on 07/13/2019 9:53:07 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: TheNext
They are ignorant that Islam is their murderous enemy.

Unfortunately that naivetés extends to almost all Infidels who have no idea of what fundamental Islam is about; which is -Subjugate ,Convert or Kill anyone who does not believe there is only one God, and Muhammad is His prophet. -Tom

22 posted on 07/13/2019 9:54:44 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Perhaps someday, somebody can do a study to find out if there is any common cause for why there seems to be so much violence in that part of the world. Though its most likely the effects of global warming


23 posted on 07/13/2019 9:58:14 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Unlease the damn Kurds and promise them air cover.

Kick Turkey in the teeth if they move on the Kurdish rear. Tired of this shit. Tired of it. If Iran wants to burn, burn it.

24 posted on 07/13/2019 9:58:30 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: StAnDeliver

> Unleash the damn Kurds and promise them air cover. <

Oh, do I hate to say it, but Biden was right about this. After the invasion, Biden suggested that Iraq be divided into three separate, sovereign nations. This would have given the Kurds their own country.

But that evidently conflicted with Bush’s stupid nation-building strategy: Three separate nations, bad. One violent, unworkable nation, good.


25 posted on 07/13/2019 10:06:34 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Iran (Shi’a majority) has forbidden it’s citizens from making the pilgrimage to Mecca and Iran is actively seeking to make the pilgrimage to Karbala (Iraq) more important than, entirely replacing, the pilgrimage the pilgrimage to Mecca.

The Battle of Karbala in 680 AD is why there is a Shia/Sunni split.

They told you it was about the inclusion/exclusion of some texts. And you probably believed them, the Muslims. Who died at the Battle of Karbala? Research that and you’ll understand why there is a Shia/Sunni split and why it will always exist.

Northern Iraq is majority Sunni, the Iranians will lay waste to northern Iraq.


26 posted on 07/13/2019 10:09:05 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: BeauBo

Seems like Iranians are more rational and reasonable than American neocon/lib megalomaniacs


27 posted on 07/13/2019 10:09:40 AM PDT by granada
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To: rintintin

[Northern Iraq? I thought we went to war, and spent 5 trillion dollars, to “liberate” Iraq?]


Brown University is the source. Their “math” will have it up to $500 trillion the next time they add up the numbers. Getting arthritis? Add a billion to the invasion cost.


28 posted on 07/13/2019 10:13:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: PGR88

I have reached the unfortunate conclusion that the Bush family is a bunch of closet Muslims. Nothing else could explain their pathological fixation on eradicating the only governments in the Middle East that offered some semblance of protection for Christians.


29 posted on 07/13/2019 10:17:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Leaning Right

Come on Do you believe Joe Biden’s stupid idea was feasible?


30 posted on 07/13/2019 10:17:25 AM PDT by granada
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To: Leaning Right

[Oh, do I hate to say it, but Biden was right about this. After the invasion, Biden suggested that Iraq be divided into three separate, sovereign nations. This would have given the Kurds their own country.
But that evidently conflicted with Bush’s stupid nation-building strategy: Three separate nations, bad. One violent, unworkable nation, good.]


From a big picture standpoint, Dubya is a really stupid guy. I don’t know if he could have done better, but he picked some really worthless people to run Afghanistan and Iraq. Not once, but multiple times in the case of Iraq.


31 posted on 07/13/2019 10:19:29 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Iraq is a monument to English colonial stupidity. This region has been a battleground between Shia (Persia) and Sunni (Arabs) for 1400 yrs. Creating a geographical country only made it worse.


32 posted on 07/13/2019 10:21:01 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: StAnDeliver

Without Iran’s support, Iraqi Kurds would have already been pulverised by Saddam (or by ISIL).


33 posted on 07/13/2019 10:26:55 AM PDT by granada
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To: PGR88

[George Bush kicked out the chair from under the Christians in Iraq with his invasion, and Obama and McCain nearly finished them off with their use and support of Islamist “rebels” to go after Assad.]


I’m not shedding any tears over the fate of Middle Eastern Christians. Their record of strident anti-Americanism and support for totalitarian ideologies, terrorists and dictatorships doesn’t engender much sympathy. Sirhan Sirhan, Michel Aflaq, George Habash, Tariq Aziz - not exactly friends of America.


34 posted on 07/13/2019 10:27:16 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Christendom needs to re-envision itself as a missionary society.

That will clarify for it where it needs to stay or go, and when, and why.

Sometimes wiping the dust off their feet really does make sense. The USA could stand to do more to accommodate such people, perhaps as a waypoint.


35 posted on 07/13/2019 10:34:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: rintintin

Neocons are shameless self righteous liars, just like islamic terrorists.


36 posted on 07/13/2019 10:38:14 AM PDT by granada
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To: granada

> Come on Do you believe Joe Biden’s stupid idea was feasible? <

Yes. In many ways, Iraq is like Yugoslavia was. Different tribes thrown together in a somewhat artificial country.

Sooner or later, Yugoslavia had to split apart. Yes, it was violent. But the split worked. And now the region is relatively peaceful.

So, yeah, the splitting up of Iraq could have worked. Just like with Yugoslavia. But one thing is for sure. An Iraq split would have been more violent than the Yugoslavia split.

Would an Iraq split have been worth the violence? Time will tell.


37 posted on 07/13/2019 10:39:07 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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https://hathalyoum.net/articles/2029380

published Iranian state television video of military operations carried out by the Iranian army, on Thursday evening, in the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

During the operation, the Revolutionary Guards used the homemade M-6, the Tasnim said.

this aircraft able to fly for a distance of 2000 km, and fired bombs described as smart and accurate camps on “terrorist groups” inside Kurdistan Iraq.

According to Iranian media, on Thursday evening, that the Revolutionary Guard targeted artillery and aircraft marching headquarters for the parties “Komala” and “Democratic” of Kurdistan in Iraq.

In a statement on Thursday, the Komma Party said that the Revolutionary Guard missiles hit the headquarters of the opposition parties in the mountains of Halkurd and Barbzin in the Kurdistan region, wounding two members of the opposition parties.


38 posted on 07/13/2019 10:42:20 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: SanchoP

[Iraq is a monument to English colonial stupidity. This region has been a battleground between Shia (Persia) and Sunni (Arabs) for 1400 yrs. Creating a geographical country only made it worse.]


The idea that the European powers are responsible for the strife is a monument to magical thinking combined with Soviet fellow traveler narrative that looked for any reason to blame the capitalist West. As you noted, local ethnic and religious disputes pre-date their independence by thousands of years. The era before European governance intermingled all these people. Each group wants its traditional lands plus where they’re living today. When you add all the territorial claims up, the demands are several times the land available. Partition means instant war, the moment the occupying power leaves. So they drew lines for defensibility and a rough balance of power and hoped for the best.


39 posted on 07/13/2019 10:43:52 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: rintintin; Trumpet 1
Northern Iraq? I thought we went to war, and spent 5 trillion dollars, to “liberate” Iraq? Now we have to send 300000 troops back in to do another “liberation”?

It's nuts to protect the borders of foreign countries when are own borders are not protected. NOT one drop of American blood AND not one thin dime for the potentates of the Middle East - this is NOT OUR PROBLEM.

And if the Brits send us more ambassadors like Sir Kim Darroch - the Brits can protect their own damn oil tankers. Enough with the ingrates, the indefensibly violent cultures and lost causes that never should have been attempted in the first place. NOT ONE DROP OF AMERICAN BLOOD NOT ONE DIME OF OUR TREASURE. EFF 'EM.

40 posted on 07/13/2019 10:45:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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