Who is (Deceased) Harrison (Harry) Bounel, CT SSN 042-68-4425 ?
And is this for real, or another rabbit hole?:
(Asking for a friend.)
Posted on 06/18/2019 10:03:49 AM PDT by TomServo
The dad of a Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victim won a defamation lawsuit this week against conspiracy theorists who wrote a book claiming the 2012 shooting — in which 26 people, including 20 kids, lost their lives — never happened.
The book, “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook,” was pulled as the publisher settled claims filed by Lenny Pozner, whose 6-year-old son, Noah, was killed in the shooting.
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You hate people who ask questions and don’t blindly accept official narratives? LOL!
Have you seen the actual lawsuit, and what it was over. Did the lawsuit prove the official narratives? I highly doubt it. I’ve never seen the Original Petition and I bet you haven’t, either.
Yeah, the usual gatekeepers show up in Sandy Hook, Oklahoma City, pedophilia and vaccine threads, and often Syria Fake Gas Attack threads, to defend the Official Narrative (TM) and attack people who are genuinely interested in the facts of events, in particular events used to justify passing major pieces of control legislation.
Civil and criminal conspiracy are part of our legal system; some idiots here think criminal conspiracy only happens if the government and media tells us how it happened.
There are a lot of odd happenings and discoveries. And the local government didn’t help. It’s sensical to question the official narrative
It was well publicized at the time that 6 year old Noah Pozner had an open casket funeral.
The funeral home had cleaned & dressed him as per the parents’ request.
His face was partly covered by a Jewish prayer cloth.
His jaw had been blown off, and IIRC one of his hands, too.
Yet the conspiracists have stalked & threatened his parents, accusing them of being paid actors & claiming their child never existed.
One little girl, who has not yet been identified, survived in the pile of dead children & 1 teacher hiding in the bathroom.
She’d be about 12 now.
I shudder to think what the “truther” lunatics might do to that child if & when her identity is ever revealed.
Gatekeepers. What a great description! Thanks. I first ran into the Gatekeepers on threads about the JFK assassination.
Who is (Deceased) Harrison (Harry) Bounel, CT SSN 042-68-4425 ?
And is this for real, or another rabbit hole?:
(Asking for a friend.)
All holes are filled with rabbits as long as deep state controls
“Oh yeah, I remember him”
Good. So you do know (or should know) that the Conn. State PD took the lead in that investigation, since they were holding the press conferences.
“And when a hoax defender gives a BS answer that still proves nothing...”
Well, there was no hoax to defend, but I see you would rather double down on stupid than quit when you are behind. Okay. If it is proof that you want, then I actually can prove that the Sandy Hook victims were included in the numbers that the state reported to the FBI, rather than the numbers that Newtown reported the the FBI.
See, the UCR report published by the FBI is not the only place that these statistics are published. Each state actually publishes its own report of what it and all its constituent counties and municipalities have reported to the FBI each year. As it happens, the Connecticut UCR report for 2012 has some very pertinent information that we can compare with the FBI report. Here’s a link to the state report:
https://www.dpsdata.ct.gov/dps/ucr/data/2012/Crime%20In%20Connecticut%20COMPLETE%202012.pdf
Now, if you go to page 245 of that report, you can see the breakdown of the offenses that Newtown reported for that year. This page includes the same zero total for homicides as the FBI report, but it also includes this relevant footnote for the “Murder” category:
“Does NOT include 27 victims of Newtown mass shooting (see State Police Misc.)”
So there, clear as day in the official Connecticut report, if any conspiracy theorists had bothered to read it, is the same explanation that I gave you. Just to be sure, let’s look up that “State Police Misc.” section that is referenced and see what that says. It’s on page 415. What do you know? Right on page 415, under the investigating agency State Police, we have 27 murders reported to the FBI under the UCR program, with another footnote that tells us:
“Includes 27 victims of Newtown mass shooting”
There’s really no way to argue your way around plain language like that. Game over.
This just goes to show how dishonest conspiracy theorists are with their “unanswered questions” spiel. These questions were clearly answered back in 2013 when all these reports were published on the internet for any interested member of the public to review. It took me less than an hour to look them over and find the answers, but the conspiracy theorists who pretend to be so concerned with this burning question couldn’t be bothered to do the most basic of investigative work in six entire years.
In fact, they wouldn’t have even needed to do this themselves. I’m certain if anyone had contacted the Connecticut State Police, or the Newtown PD, or the FBI and asked them where they could find the murders reported, they would have pointed them in the right direction. Apparently none of the conspiracy theorists could even be bothered to take two minutes to type up that email and fire it off.
Just goes to show they don’t really want answers, since they don’t take even the most basic little baby steps to try and find them.
There are actually are FReepers around from Newtown and the surrounding area who know victims’ families. This isn’t just some theoretical internet fun and games for them.
Some of them even posted about it when the incident happened and conspiracy truthers started in with their “crisis actor” and “hoax” BS, but no, conspiracy nuts do not care about the real people who suffered real tragedies or how their batshit crazy ravings might affect those people.
Good post. Sad to say, I think it will not shame any of the ghouls, because they are incapable of shame.
“Good. So you do know (or should know) that the Conn. State PD took the lead in that investigation, since they were holding the press conferences.”
Yes. Lt. Paul Vance is Connecticut’s version of disgraced Sherrif Scott Israel except on a state level and Newtown is just another Broward County.
Here’s Lt. Paul Vance threatening people......
At the :36 mark he states that he has ‘discussed with federal authorities’.....’they will be investigated statewide and federally’. Looks like he was taking his marching orders from Eric Holder’s FBI. We all know how great he was don’t we?
If he was ‘taking the lead’like you said, why did he have to discuss ANYTHING with federal authorities?
“See, the UCR report published by the FBI is not the only place that these statistics are published.”
You are missing the point entirely. I wasn’t talking about any other place or agency, now was I? Of course the state police are going to list it unless they are total idiots. I am only concerned about the FBI’s listing of crimes. Looks like they don’t want to be pinned to the wall about it. That way, Lt. Vance and the state and local police can take the fall when the corruption is exposed and it all goes south and ‘falls on their head’ just like good ole Sheriff Israel.
You can call me a “dishonest conspiracy theorist” until the cows come home or you’re blue in the face for all I care. I am an American citizen and I have a right to ask all the questions I wish. Freedom of Speech and all. Especially since this episode has been exploited to try and take our 2nd Amendment Rights away.
Since the State of Conn. and Lt. Paul Vance were “in charge”, let’s take a look at the results of their ‘investigation’...................
Just think how the Sandy Hook gatekeepers must be feeling with Pres. Trump cleaning out the corruption in our justice agencies. It’s just a matter of time.
Right, and we should ALWAYS BELIEVE every claim someone makes about themselves on a forum with no proof of it whatsoever.
I believe you show up on every type of thread like this, to insult and name call anyone that asks questions, like a gatekeeper.
https://i2.wp.com/i.imgur.com/KFkopXg.jpg
https://acescafeamericain.com/2014/01/14/obama-using-stolen-ssn-number-on-2009-tax-returns/
DID SOMEONE SAY NEWTOWN?
For real? Are you for real?
OTOH - you can tell those who probably don’t donate to FR (or any other useful cause) by their comments...does my tagline fit?
Prove to me they never saw the bodies. I’ll wait patiently.
“You hate people who ask questions”
You hate the truth
Because everything on the internet is true.
Is Sandy Hook unique in this regard. Did all the other school shootings feature news footage of the bodies being hauled away?
The argument that because they didn't show dead kids on TV means Sandy Hook didn't happen is pretty weak.
“If he was ‘taking the lead’like you said...”
Seriously? You want to triple down on stupid now? You don’t think that I can prove that the Connecticut State Police were the lead investigative agency too? I’m sure you didn’t bother to try and research that yourself either, since it doesn’t take more than 2 minutes of googling to find that proof:
“Also receiving the meritorious service award are all of the detectives assigned to the three state police crime squads. All three units were needed for the Sandy Hook investigation. The Western District Crime Squad was the lead group on the investigation, the Central District Crime Squad was tasked with identifying the victims and collecting evidence from part of the school and the school parking lot and the Eastern District Crime Squad processed the Lanza home.”
So, there you have it, the State Police, specifically the Western District Crime Squad of the Connecticut State Police, was the lead investigative agency. Another game over for you.
“why did he have to discuss ANYTHING with federal authorities?”
Well, police consult with federal agencies all the time on cases where the feds are not the lead investigators. Have you never heard of sending evidence to an FBI crime lab, or requesting the help of FBI profilers?
“You are missing the point entirely. I wasn’t talking about any other place or agency, now was I? Of course the state police are going to list it unless they are total idiots. I am only concerned about the FBI’s listing of crimes.”
No, you are the one missing the point. Both reports are part of the same program, the UCR program. One is the FBI’s report of the data it received, and the other is the state’s report of the data it reported. Both of them are in complete agreement, but the state report gives us the proof that you demanded, that the State Police were the agency that reported the Sandy Hook homicides to the FBI, which is why they are listed on the table for state-reported crimes. Sorry, but it’s all there in plain English, and you can’t tapdance your way around the fact that your “unanswered question” has been definitively answered.
“I am an American citizen and I have a right to ask all the questions I wish.”
Sure, I suppose you can keep asking questions instead of spending less than an hour looking at the records that have been publicly available for six years that could have answered those questions in a few minutes. It would just prove to everyone that you don’t actually want answers though.
“I believe you show up on every type of thread like this, to insult and name call anyone that asks questions, like a gatekeeper.”
Aww, whine some more about how people are allowed to disagree with your insane conspiracy theories. That’s going to win over everyone to your way of thinking, I’m sure.
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