BREAKING: Supreme Court rejects challenges to silencer laws.

CNN ^ | 6/10/2019 | Ariane de Vogue

[Carriage Hill]

The Supreme Court on Monday denied a request to take up a challenge to a federal law requiring the registration of some firearms including silencers. Challengers in the case believe the Second Amendment protects such firearm accessories. An appeals court had held that a silencer is not a "bearable" arm protected by the Constitution. The case comes as a silencer was used during the recent Virginia Beach massacre and President Donald Trump suggested he'd look into restrictions on gun silencers. The Trump administration had also urged the court not to take up the issue. The order was issued without comment or recorded dissent.

[shanover]

Our court system up to the supreme has no standing in what are our inalienable rights that God gave us. Their interpretations are usually pure bullsh*t.

[TADSLOS]

The “Win will be abolishment of the NFA and disbanding the F in ATF.

[Dacula]

I thought that Texas passed a law that allowed ‘suppressors’.

If they can do it, why can’t other states?

[LeonardFMason]

We can’t keep a Central American out of America. Make silencers illegal and you will create an utterly unregulated black market supply.

There are an estimated 400,000,000 legally owned firearms, which likely means there are far more that are unknown. NOTHING will stop Americans from getting/owning the firearms and accessories they want.

Politicians just want to make themselves feel better by acting like they are doing something.

[LeonardFMason]

I realize they are NOT “arms” Federal Law disagrees with you. "Silencers, mufflers, sound and flash suppressors for the articles in (a) through (d) of this category and their specifically designed, modified or adapted components and parts. " are explicitly listed as Category I—Firearms, Close Assault Weapons and Combat Shotguns in Federal Law. "Title 22 → Chapter I → Subchapter M → Part 121" is the legal codification of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations. I stand corrected.

[wastedyears]

All federal firearms laws are unconstitutional.

[Paal Gulli]

The National Firearms Act makes all NFA devices “firearms.” So by law a suppressor/silencer/moderator is a firearm regardless whether there’s a gun attached to it.

[grumpygresh]

The independent Federal judiciary along with the independent bureaucracies and agencies are IMO the greatest threat to out republic.

Everyone likes the word “independent”. We have independence Day, people want and strive to be independent which is all well and good. But when independent describes an essential and very powerful part of our government, that same word has the polar opposite meaning and is now pernicious. Dictatorships are by definition independent acting entities.

Our state and local judicial and law enforcement organizations do allow public participation. IOW self government is allowed. We have elections of state judges, AGs, sheriffs. Even most police departments do have public meetings do allow for, and the most part encourage petition by the public.

No such popular check on power is allowed at the Federal level. No voting, lifetime appointment for judges, civil services and union protection, prosecutorial and investigatory immunity for agencies. Most of these unfortunate changes took place in the beginning of the 20th century.

There are very few popular means of checking the power of these “independent” actors. Jury nullification is one available option, but as we all know, juries are often intimidated and manipulated by these “independent” entities.

It doesn’t matter if the red team or the blue team is at the helm; liberty is always lost over time. True it’s lost faster with the Dems, but does it matter?

JFK once said, to paraphrase, that if political revolution is not possible by peaceful means, violent means will be inevitable.

People at the Federal level know this and they are desperately and feverishly dumbing down the public through propaganda and promoting division and crises’ in an attempt to shield themselves.

[DoughtyOne]

They can. Suppressors are much more legal than they aren’t these days (as I understand it).

The feds now want them registered.

I don’t like that. I view it as the last step before outlawing them and confiscation.

Trump is wrong here. He’s bought into the media’s representation of them.

I saw some stats on the decibels of a firearm without the suppressor and with.

One one certain weapon it was 160 before, and 135 after. That’s hardly silent, and is still head jarring loud.

[wastedyears]

Just because it’s law, doesn’t make it constitutional.

[Secret Agent Man]

If they are not bearable arms why is batfe regulating them and categorizing them as firearms?

[skimbell]

Chickenshits.

[Clean_Sweep]

There is no change to the status of supressors due to this case. 2 guys made illeagal supressors under current rules, the status is unchanged.

[Carriage Hill]

ATF should be a convenience store, not a gov’t agency.

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[zeugma]

The Supreme Court on Monday denied a request to take up a challenge to a federal law requiring the registration of some firearms including silencers.

Was wondering why a silencer was finally used in a mass shooting. Didn't know this case was before the court. Now it makes sense.

[zeugma]

Would think that if the court decides a supressor is not a firearm it should not be regulated.

You have to remember that you are dealing with the government here. Logic has nothing to do with what they do.

[Wayne07]

Pretty sure my .45 is a lot louder than my pellet gun. It would be nice with a suppressor though.

[Charles Martel]

The feds now want them registered.

I don’t like that. I view it as the last step before outlawing them and confiscation.

The feds NOW want them registered? As you may have noticed upthread, the National Firearms Act was passed in 1934. So if registration brings with it the threat of confiscation, FedGov has kept the peace for over eighty years. These (legitimate) fears will only come to pass when this country finally falls to an anti-American, anti-Constitution cabal of leftists. What happens at that point is a topic for another day.

For now, the court seems uninterested in removing "silencers" from the NFA's registration requirements. Oddly enough, that keeps silencers bound to the language of the NFA, thus making them less vulnerable to general ignorance (and executive orders) than, say, bump-fire stocks.

[Hot Tabasco]

All federal firearms laws are unconstitutional.

So were taxes........But the Supreme Court would argue otherwise........