Posted on 06/07/2019 11:53:41 AM PDT by Lmo56
Assuming the NPV were ever invoked, it would certainly end up before SCOTUS. In order to prevail at SCOTUS, NPV proponents would have to win four [possibly five] arguments:
1. That the NPV DID NOT violate the Interstate Compact Clause of the United States Constitution [Article I, Section X, Clause III].
2. That when a state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the NPV DID NOT USURP the equal weight accorded to each vote and the equal dignity owed to each voter [Bush v. Gore, 2000].
3. That having once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the NPV DID NOT value one person's vote over that of another [Harper v. Virginia Bd. of Elections, 1966].
4. That once the franchise is granted to the electorate, the NPV DID NOT draw lines which are inconsistent with the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and that the right of suffrage WAS NOT denied by a debasement or dilution of the weight of a citizen’s vote just as effectively as by wholly prohibiting the free exercise of the franchise [Reynolds v. Sims, 1964].
5. IF SCOTUS were to rule that once the right to vote was granted to the citizens of a State, the votes were considered free speech, the NPV would have to prove it DID NOT violate the 1st Amendment.
OF COURSE, their citizens WOULD NOT participate in the NPV vote count. DEMs might not like it, but IT WOULD be constitutional.
NPV = Non Partisan Vanity?
Maybe it’s not a legal argument, but practically speaking a close election would involve ENDLESS recounts. How would the count be determined? By the networks? By the Secretaries of each State (who control the state elections)? They don’t certify their counts until weeks afterwards, and there may be challenges.
The bigger the prize, the larger the incentive to cheat.
NPV?
National popular vote.
OK, WHAT is NPV???
As an MBA, I always knew NPV = Net Present Value
Next Presidential violation
I’m going to laugh my a$$ off if Trump wins the PV and all these libs states electors have to go and vote for him!............
NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE................
Not advocating NPV. Just saying withdrawal from voting is the only way its constitutional. But, it takes [currently] 11 states and DC out of the voting. NPV in reverse for the GOP.
We should do the opposite.
What we need to do is to return the ability for State and regional parties besides the big two to once again flourish because they can hope for national significance simply by dent of more local successes.
To do that we mainly need to reverse the 17th Amendment but we also need to increase the number of Senators to three per State, with each State having one of its Senators coming up every 2 years.
Doing that would help to weaken the power of the two big parties.
I don’t see any issues with Net Present Value.
I am for it.
When using TLAs (Three Letter Acronyms) one should define what a TLA is.
dint
The states can award the electoral votes in their states anyway they want. If they wanted to grant them all to candidates with blue eyes, they could do so.
It’s continually referred to a a compact, which is not what they call it. A compact between states would require that state A must do something in order for State B to do something. In this plan the votes are dependent on the results of all states, not a single or group of states.
The whole thing is stupid.
But, being from MA I never really had a reason to vote for President because it did not matter. Now it would.
It’s still stupid.
The net present Value is always “Too damn small!!”.
Drat.
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If I remember correctly, it would eventually get decided in the House if there were significant issues with the States selecting electors and no candidate gets 270 when the votes are counted in early January, the election goes to the House, which (unless illegals are exluded from the Census) is probably now in permanent Dem control ...
Thanks for the humorous response!
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