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Pfizer 'deliberately buried' data showing its arthritis drug might also prevent Alzheimer's (trunc)
daily mail ^ | 6/5/2019 | SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

Posted on 06/05/2019 10:33:08 AM PDT by RummyChick

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To: Innovative

NO. It is not very simple. Let me guess. You didn’t read the article.


21 posted on 06/05/2019 10:47:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Well, if the formulation is the PEDIATRIC vial package shown, I can think of one reason why patients who take PEDIATRIC Embrel might be 65% less likely to get alzheimer’s than the general population... ;-)


22 posted on 06/05/2019 10:49:54 AM PDT by dangus
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To: RummyChick

I know pharmas are about $$$$$$$.

I’ve also read of cases, as with Lyme’s Disease, where medical/insurance boards block effective treatments with available regimens (long-term doxy), because a vaccine is on the way (providing $$$$$ pharma income),


23 posted on 06/05/2019 10:51:04 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Innovative

Democrats have also found that eye sight improvement surgery also decreases amount of sexual activity!


24 posted on 06/05/2019 10:51:22 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: polymuser

I am not sure when the patent runs out.

Here is info talking about 2029

https://www.centerforbiosimilars.com/news/amgen-filed-nearly-3-times-more-patents-on-enbrel-in-us-than-eu-or-japan-report-finds

Pfizer outside of US. Amgen inside US.

I THINK. Not sure


25 posted on 06/05/2019 10:52:38 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Rocko Jack

???????

No sense at all.

But then these companies have gone to market without staggering test results.

Maybe there is a factor that is different outside of any studies?

Interesting

I dont know what the hell I am talking about :)


26 posted on 06/05/2019 10:52:46 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: RummyChick
"One of the world's biggest drug firms deliberately buried data showing one of its arthritis medications could slash the risk of Alzheimer's."

What does "buried the data" mean? Does the fact they chose not to publicize certain data mean they "buried" it? They could easily have made the business decision that the data wasn't solid enough to justify spending millions and millions to research the drug for this new purpose. Especially if there are already other, more promising, drugs for this undergoing clinical trials.

27 posted on 06/05/2019 10:53:22 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: RummyChick
THis story doesn't make sense to me.

Makes sense to me. A couple of ways.

First off, people would be asking to get the medication to help prevent Alzheimer's and perhaps doctors would be tempted to prescribe it for that purpose. It wasn't developed for that purpose.

Secondly, Pfizer might have planned (just my guess) to develop a version of the drug for Alzheimer's and other purposes. That way, they would have TWO drugs in the market, making perhaps twice as much or more.

Thirdly, it they had acknowledged the secondary benefits from Embrel, who's to say that other drug makers might not have jumped at the opportunity and beaten Pfizer to market with the anti-Alzheimer's medicine?

Just my guesses, and I'm pretty sure the shareholders would have gotten on Pfizer's case if they had allowed other drug makers to beat them to market with such a product.
28 posted on 06/05/2019 10:55:35 AM PDT by adorno
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To: circlecity

I dont think there are any really realistic promising studies. I got nailed in the Biogen stock cascade.


29 posted on 06/05/2019 10:56:30 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Just taking a wild guess here:

They feared that if word got out off-label use of their drug for this purpose would skyrocket. Then later, if some horrible risk was discovered, they’d be on the hook for untold billions in liabilities.


30 posted on 06/05/2019 10:57:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: adorno

Article says they were urged INTERNALLY to do clinical trials and rejected it.

Amgen has a longer hold on the patent so maybe they will work on it.


31 posted on 06/05/2019 10:58:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Rocko Jack

So they can introduce it as a patented new medication with the big bucks that brings, I suppose.


32 posted on 06/05/2019 10:59:07 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: RummyChick
If I had to guess I'd say it had something to do with the labyrinthian regulations regarding drug production and marketing, and the real probability of lawsuits costing billions of dollars if something being used in an ad hoc manner didn't work or caused some real harm.

Cancer would probably be cured by now, if we didn't have an FDA.

33 posted on 06/05/2019 10:59:35 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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"I dont think there are any really realistic promising studies. I got nailed in the Biogen stock cascade."

This itself could justify a decision that the preliminary studies didn't justify sinking millions, if not hundreds of millions, in future research and trials. I'd not saying Pfizer may not have ulterior, more shady, motives but the mere fact they chose not to publicize certain preliminary research results doesn't necessarily mean they do.

34 posted on 06/05/2019 11:01:30 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: DannyTN
Pfizer is not the only person with this data. There are numerous companies that have the claims data and can data mine from it. Commercial claims data is harvested and sold back to the drug companies de-identified for patient information on the the regular.
35 posted on 06/05/2019 11:02:08 AM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: RummyChick
Article says they were urged INTERNALLY to do clinical trials and rejected it.

That's OFFICIALLY. Unofficially, they might have decided to conduct those studies, especially on rats and other animals.
36 posted on 06/05/2019 11:02:56 AM PDT by adorno
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To: RummyChick

Does a psoeiasis patch correlate to Alzheimer’s development? Not being snarky. Would really like to know.


37 posted on 06/05/2019 11:05:35 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (This Deplorable is not fooled by the Marxist-Stalinist totalitarians infesting the Dem Party.)
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To: RummyChick
Right -- but Pfizer would have had a jump on developing a modified, patentable version of the drug specifically targeted at Alzheimers, and could perhaps have gotten a brand new patent for it.

By doing nothing, they lost whatever advantage they would have had in trying to develop a version of the drug specifically targeted at Alzheimers.

That leads me to believe that Pfizer was telling the truth about why they didn't pursue it.

38 posted on 06/05/2019 11:06:10 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RummyChick

along with the cost for government approval for a different treatment line.


39 posted on 06/05/2019 11:09:08 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Avalon Memories

You have to have a disease that warrants use of the drug via your insurance.

Not sure some psoriasis is enough. Maybe you need it on many parts of your body. have never pursued any medication for it.


40 posted on 06/05/2019 11:12:31 AM PDT by RummyChick
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