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Ignorant, Irresponsible or Insane? A Federal Tax On Wealth!
Truth Based Logic ^ | March 1, 2019 | William Flax

Posted on 03/01/2019 10:04:04 AM PST by Ohioan

We do not claim that all questions of American Constitutional Law are easily settled; that there is always an easy answer to what the Constitution allows; or to what it requires, or what it forbids. But there are obvious answers on some points. There are clearly defined functions mandated; others, clearly forbidden; as well as an overriding functional purpose. Yet nothing could be clearer than the fact that a Federal tax on wealth is totally contrary to both the letter & spirit of the Constitution of the United States.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; constitution; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; massachusetts; newyork; ocasiocortez; slingingbull; socialism; taxation; vermont; wealth
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To: sphinx

It is very annoying to have the Buffett children rake in $500k+ running foundations funded by dad and complaining of being undertaxed, just like dad. Remember too the kennedy energy scam where little Joe raked in buckets of cash distributing gifts to the little people, while wishing he paid more taxes. I just wish they would stop with the poor-mouth while they all take great pains making themselves nearly untaxable.


21 posted on 03/01/2019 10:45:05 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Leaning Right

National Socialism was a derivative of Marxist Socialism; they were kindred movements. Obama could be described as either, although his actual sentiments were more on the order of a Quisling, inviting the Nazis—such as Soros—in, rather than being one of them.


22 posted on 03/01/2019 10:46:35 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
a Federal tax on wealth is totally contrary to both the letter & spirit of the Constitution of the United States.

Confiscatory taxation and taxes on the rich:

Mass prosperity requires economic progress, which requires a pro-capitalistic political program, which requires rationality, natural rights, including private property rights, capital accumulation, and technological progress and advances.

The total abolition of the personal and corporate income taxes and of the inheritance tax is an essential feature of a pro-capitalist political program. It is required by the individual’s right to his own property. In addition, progress toward the abolition of these taxes helps to create the conditions required for economic progress, by increasing economic incentives, and the ability to save, both of which serve to promote capital accumulation, and thus a rising productivity of labor and rising average real wage rates.

23 posted on 03/01/2019 10:51:12 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: from occupied ga
Read the article. You anticipate part of the conclusion. But I demonstrate the main points. Wealth Tax
24 posted on 03/01/2019 10:52:48 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: glennaro

No it won’t happen. What the agitation leads to is an issue we can rally on to awaken millions. It is all in how we respond to their tactics.


25 posted on 03/01/2019 10:57:18 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

What’s new? Our graduated income tax system introduced in 1913 with the 16th Amendment is a tax on wealth. So is the means tested Medicare Part B tier system that bases premiums on income.


26 posted on 03/01/2019 11:00:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: Amendment10
You are preaching to the choir. But missing the main point of the article, which recognizes the dynamoic that made American exceptualism functional.

Wealth Tax

27 posted on 03/01/2019 11:00:45 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: mjp

You are preaching to the choir! But my essential point here, is that this is opportunity—in large part for some of the reasons you cite—to counter attack the Left by reaffirming the wisdom of the Founders, without the sickening apologies with which some Republicans approached Obama.


28 posted on 03/01/2019 11:07:05 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: kabar
So is the means tested Medicare Part B tier system that bases premiums on income.

These premiums were put in as a basis to work from when means testing of social security benefits begins. Based on your Medicare part B surcharge, an appropriate percentage reduction of your benefits will occur. The mechanism is in place.

29 posted on 03/01/2019 11:17:03 AM PST by damper99 (pu)
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To: Ohioan

Te Leftwing’’ of the Democrat Party? You mean they have a right wing?


30 posted on 03/01/2019 11:20:29 AM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: Ohioan
Honestly, I think a wealth tax is more honest than an income tax for the following reason: the income tax protects the power of those with established wealth and acts as a gatekeeper, suppressing the nouveau-riche and making it hard for them to reach established wealth status. Thus, a wealth tax would attack the established elite as opposed to rising entrepreneurs and brilliant young business people who are generating huge incomes.

As a result, an outright "wealth tax" has zero chance of actually passing because the left holds an extraordinary amount of the wealth in this country already. The income tax serves their purpose perfectly.
31 posted on 03/01/2019 11:26:47 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: jmacusa

Relatively, some are certainly further Left than others. If we attack the Leftists in the right way, we may seriously damage whatever remains of solidarity in the Democrats ranks.


32 posted on 03/01/2019 11:39:06 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: damper99
Most people are unaware that the premiums you pay for Medicare Part B, by law, cover only 25% of the costs. The remaining 75% comes from the General Fund. In fact, 40% of all Medicare expenditures come from the General Fund.

The Medicare Trust Fund (HI) will be exhausted in 2026 at which point benefits must be reduced to equal revenue received. Medicare has been running in the red since 2008 and SS since 2010. How stupid is it to proclaim Medicare for all when the current program is going bankrupt. And it should be noted that 90% of Medicare recipients have Medigap or supplementary insurance to cover what Medicare does not pay for. The private insurance companies will not go out of business if there is Medicare for all.

33 posted on 03/01/2019 11:41:19 AM PST by kabar
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To: Antoninus
You are looking for ulterior motives in justifying something clearly outside of the Constitutional intent. The last thing the founders would have wanted for the Federal Government was a role in trying to reengineer American society or social values. Wealth Tax
34 posted on 03/01/2019 11:43:13 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
Here is another excerpt:

Are those, who openly advocate such a tax, merely ignorant of the Constitutional specifics, too irresponsible to care, or so obsessed by hate & envy as to be no longer capable of a reasoned approach to public policy--indeed, compulsion driven to punish those who have dared to achieve above the multitude!

35 posted on 03/01/2019 11:57:39 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Amendment10
You make too much sense. You're going to be hated.

Don't dare mention that the Federal Reserve is a private banking institution either. That'll really bring you wrath.

36 posted on 03/01/2019 12:18:30 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ohioan
Here iss another excerpt that begins to get into the essential argument:

Has any nation achieved such purposes by confiscating the material accomplishments of its most productive citizens, after they had already been taxed when those accomplishments were first accumulated? Does any socially inclined species, with a modicum of intelligence, seek to advance by tearing down its high achievers? Do you secure the Blessings of Liberty for your posterity by punishing the most successful of any generation?

Do those who wish to confiscate accumulations of great wealth, understand the self-sustaining mechanism, which provides decent employment for those not born with exceptional skills; that America thrived, as Great Britain had once thrived (before her stupid & disastrous acceptance of forced redistribution), precisely because she did not sabotage the accumulation of great wealth before ratification of the XVIth Amendment in 1913?

37 posted on 03/01/2019 1:31:21 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: philman_36; All
"Don't dare mention that the Federal Reserve is a private banking institution either."

Now that you mention it, the MAJOR constitutional problem with the Federal Reserve is this imo.

Constitutional Convention delegate Ben Franklin had suggested adding canals to the post roads clause (1.8.7). He had probably intended for canals to facilitate commerce.

But his fellow delegates had decided that being able to build canals would also give Congress an excuse to regulate INTRAstate banking which some of the delegates, not including Alexander Hamilton, had indicated that their banking associates didn’t want. So the delegates dropped Franklin’s suggestion for canals.

Thomas Jefferson had noted this discussion as follows.

“A proposition was made to them to authorize Congress to open canals, and an amendatory one to empower them to incorporate. But the whole was rejected, and one of the reasons for rejection urged in debate was, that then they would have a power to erect a bank, which would render the great cities, where there were prejudices and jealousies on the subject, adverse to the reception of the Constitution [emphasis added].” —Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

The significance of no federal canals is this. Traitor Alexander Hamilton was wrong to justify his national bank partly with the “Necessary and Proper Clause" (1.8.18). This is because the delegates had decided that a particular means to an end, a national bank, did not justify the end, Franklin’s canals, regardless of necessary and proper clause.

On the other hand, if President Woodrow Wilson had done the right thing by first leading Congress to successfully petition the sovereign states to ratify a banking amendment to the Constitution before signing the Federal Reserve bill, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

So regardless that the Federal Reserve is argued to be private, such an argument was possibly intended to sidestep the constitutional reality that the Federal Reserve was established without the required consent of the Constitution’s Article V sovereign state majority imo.

Corrections, insights welcome.

38 posted on 03/01/2019 2:04:57 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Ohioan

This is a winning issue...if the GOP decides it actually wants to WIN instead of being the gentleman loser.

I have grown tired of these Vichy Republicans (Mitt Romney, I’m pointing at you) who sell us out time dn time again because winning would be just gauche’.


39 posted on 03/01/2019 3:05:33 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: damper99

SS payments are means tested in two ways. Medicare premiums vary with income, as you stated. And, the entire SS payment is taxed at your marginal tax rate once your income exceeds a modest threshold.


40 posted on 03/01/2019 3:07:52 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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