Skip to comments.Trump Indicates End of ‘Hire American’ Policy, May Invite More Foreign Workers
Posted on 02/07/2019 6:19:12 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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...With all due respect, it is very likely you don’t have family members who are employed in STEM positions or you would not make such a statement.
There are middle-aged Freepers “Discouraged Workers” here who are desperately looking for work in STEM fields...They have had an uphill fight ageism and cheap foreign labor thought a variety of Visa worker programs.
How do I know?
I follow the issue. I have been very vocal in my opposition to H-1B Visas, Unlimited Student visas and other cheap foreign labor Visas, and discouraged workers—because I have seen what happens to US citizens up front and personal. Because of my outspokenness, I receive Freepmail from FRiends who have been out of work for years...privately sharing their stories. THEY ARE NOT ON THE DOLE. BUT THEY ARE DISCOURAGED.
2 recent examples...I received a Freepmail from someone who searched for 5 years and gave up...Been out of work for 2...Likely now on Soc. Sec. eh may have working spouse, etc...I have been asked to pray for another.
But I don’t need Freeper examples. My spouse took a semi=mandatory early employment in 2017, this is someone with a PhD and 30 years experience. They thought they would easily return to workforce w/a new job...Took over a year, and they were discouraged. It is because of prayer and the apparently closing open window that existed last fall of an excellent economy economy and NO EXPANSION OF CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR that they found a job.
I have 2 kids, one MS one PhD in STEM fields, and they have had to fight the cheap foreign labor express through graduate assistantship slots, job openings, and lower salaries. One works in a department in which he is the only “Caucasian US citizen” with others from various Asian countries.
The Trump administration is suing Oracle for preferential hiring of foreign students from US universities, yet they want to expand the numbers...Is that crazy or what?!?!
I believe Trump is getting bad advice from some in his administration.
Oh and don’t think I am or have ever been an anti-Trumper—I had hoped he would run and thought he would LONG BEFORE he announced, and LONG BEFORE this became a Trump supporting website.
Please don’t call Discouraged workers people on the dole—they might be your neighbors or FRiends...
Welcome to Free Republic...
Sorry but he also said he would put American workers first...
Why are we putting steel workers and coal miners jobs first and even implementing tariffs to do so? Yet we are talking about increasing the number of foreign workers...and the tech companies just want these foreign workers because they can pay them much less than US workers and indenture them to their companies...
Why are we allowing China to steal secrets thru IT internships and Visas, yet we are implementing tariffs against China for stealing intellectual property and State security secrets?
Why is Trump administration suing Oracle for preferential hiring of Chinese students graduating from US universities yet we are talking about expanding number of graduates will take from US universities?
There are competing conflicting forces at work here...makes no sense!
I believe we need a system like Canada where foreign workers are not allowed to take jobs if citizens can fill them.
Want to Make America Great Again? Don’t bring in a bunch of cheap foreign workers.
There are quotas and unfortunately they favor people from Third World dumps. Obama actually revised the law (by an EO) to severely reduce Latin Americans and get more people from Muslim lands. He literally did this the month after he was inaugurated, and in fact it may have been one of his first EOs. Ive never figured out why Latin American advocacy groups didnt attack him on this, but then, theyre all direct subordinates of the Democratic Party and would never consider opposing the boss.
There are many Europeans who would like to emigrate to the US, not only English speakers, but Spaniards, French, Dutch, Italians, etc. - you name it.
Trump will likely bring in more third world migrants in four years than Obama did in his last four.
"MAGA" is looking more and more like pure con.
How much does HR interfere with / dictate your screening and hiring decisions?
Interestingly, one reason the U.S. doesn’t accept a lot of immigrants from Europe is that those governments have quietly been putting pressure on us for decades to restrict immigration for their people. They’ve long been fearful of a “brain drain” where their best and brightest leave and come over here.
Personally, I'm at a point in my career where any company large enough to have an HR department is too big and cumbersome for me.
I can’t speak for him, but from my experience... the discrimination starts with HR screeners. “We don’t need more middle aged white guys working for our company.” Many of the hiring managers were more than willing to go along with it because the last thing they wanted was a highly qualified older IT worker in their group (fearful managers)
Probably a reasonable concern on the part of European countries!
One of the other problems has been US unions. I have had several friends, both British and Spanish, who have tried to emigrate to the US or even simply work here briefly in the teaching field. The problem is that they were better qualified than our own teachers, and thus were in demand by school districts, so the union response was to put pressure on the federal government to restrict the number of European teachers who could be accepted here.
My rule of thumb is that I will never work for a company where administrative functions like HR and accounting can interfere with the business decisions of the management in the operating departments.
Yes, there are plenty. All H1B need to leave with zero path to citizenship.
During the campaign Trump commented that Americans were “Paid too much”. I think that might have been a clue.
Good policy. Unfortunately, my career has been with mega corps with domineering HR departments. Heard from a former colleague of mine from a previous employer last week. He told me that they replaced almost the entire 400+ IT staff with Indians in the last two years. Almost no projects are getting done. Everything is a disaster. Senior leadership doesn’t care. Nothing to do with a shortage of candidates... it was a train and replace. Looks good on paper but is a disaster for business side clients. They’ll end up spending many millions cleaning up that mess. Rinse, repeat. Oh well. :)
Trump never said Americans are “paid too much.” He was commenting about the idiocy of raising the minimum wage.
That seems to be a common theme at many large U.S. companies. They can’t even get out of their own way, and they’re managed by morons.
Hes been back and forth on this from the get go. Hell talk about wanting more workers brought in one day and the next hell officially embrace a policy of reducing legal immigration.
There is no way to square support for the RAISE Act (which he endorsed last year) with wanting legal immigration in the largest numbers ever. Something has to give.
If sufficiently presssed on the matter I bet hed say he still wants to end chain migration and the Diversity Visa Lottery, but instead of letting such policy changes result in a net reduction in legal immigration, hed like to reallocate those visas to more employment based immigration.
Whatever the case, mass immigration, even if its all legal, is a Democrat-importing policy. There is no way around that.
That would be hate speech today.
Trump was pointing out what a hoax our current supposed unemployment numbers were—right up until he was elected and could start making the totally unrealistic claims himself:
Our policy of mass immigration isn’t based on a desire to import cheap labor. It’s based on a need to replace all the people who never got past the dumpster outside a Planned Parenthood clinic.
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