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DREAMers discuss going ballot-harvesting in California to flip the House blue
American Thinker ^ | January 2, 2019 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 01/02/2019 8:54:56 AM PST by george76

It was one of those heartstring-tugging, tear-jerking, carefully curated narratives about DREAMers we're supposed to read and then respond to with sympathy.

But a story that ran in the Los Angeles Times yesterday accidentally did more to raise questions about the issue of ballot-harvesting in California than any raving right-wing warning tome could ever do.

The Times describes how California's famed ballot-harvestors, who flipped places such as Orange County blue

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foreign nationals voting, without any fear of prosecution. That changes the nature of the election, and in fact, the U.S. republic itself. Voting up until now has been a practice reserved for citizens.

Today, non-citizens vote, by getting hold of indifferent Americans, and filling in the ballots by proxy, no fingerprints visible. And who knows what kind of coercion may be employed by some of them.

And if DREAMers can do it to promote their own political agenda, what's to stop other foreigners - with far more malign agendas, from doing it? Shall a team of Russian or Chinese agents, or Arab terrorists, or Mexican cartels, be allowed in next to help harvest the ballots? (You know the Chinese are thinking about it). They're as foreign as DREAMers, and it would be perfectly legal under the current California law.

Ballot-harvesting, which is illegal in most states, makes this all possible. And what that means is that the House has been flipped in no small part by foreigners, who not only cast one ballot, they may have cast dozens and dozens of ballots, all from the advantages of ballot-harvesting.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: alliens; ballotharvesting; ballotharvestor; ballotharvestors; california; democrats; dreamers; election; fraud; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; sedition; singlepartystate; treason; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: DesertRhino

I say we should resist them on every single propaganda point they put out ... bar none.
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100%

Reject the narrative


21 posted on 01/02/2019 9:16:52 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Drew68

FBI needs to monitor all federal elections in states like CA. But first we have to clean up the FBI.


22 posted on 01/02/2019 9:19:01 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: Drew68

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter !” — Isaiah 5:20


23 posted on 01/02/2019 9:22:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: DesertRhino

Look at that race in North Carolina, where a guy one by 900 votes, but because some supporter was said by one person to have taken his ballot to mail it, the democrats refuse to seat the new person and are requiring a new election.


24 posted on 01/02/2019 9:29:50 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Williams

“Foreign interference in our election”

Yup. And Bob Mueller nowhere in sight.

PS: for years he was the director of the FBI and had enormous intelligence about what was happening on the border.

What did he do about it? Sound the alarm? Or just stand by?


25 posted on 01/02/2019 9:34:21 AM PST by Regulator
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You are on the mark. But the experiment, based on a published map--I believe around the turn of the Century--has demonstrated the media's ability to alter perceptions, once again.

People need to understand how the Left uses images to condition perceptions to a destructive purpose.

Not really in point on the color scheme, but analogous:

Persuasive Use Of Images

26 posted on 01/02/2019 9:35:26 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: george76

OFFICIAL BALLOT HARVESTING GUIDE

1) Locate vulnerable SWING districts.

2) Organize Suburban & Rural Republicans.

3) Establish a country informal “Acting” Election Secretary to balance Urban Secretary fraud.

Before Election Day ...

DEMOCRAT

4) Go door to door and collect Democrat ballots in the Big City, Swing District.

5) Celebrate with a bonfire.

REPUBLICAN

6) Collect/print many blank Provisional Ballots.

7) DuckDuckGo search Random Name Generator.

8) Submit multiple Republican ballots in the Swing District.

Any questions need one response, “I don’t know.”

Democrat Judges are CRIMINAL Frauds who ban all forms of Election PROOF of FRAUD. That is the Scam Democrat criminal Judges run. They should be imprisoned for Election Fraud Enabling.

Since election Proof of Fraud is Banned,

+ Serialized ballot proof is banned, hence en-mass ballot copying is enabled.
+ Voter ID proof is banned, hence random name generators are enabled.
+ Ballot Picture proof is banned, hence anonymous multi voting is enabled.

REPUBLICAN

9) Teach Republicans to never give up their ballot to a third party. Take pictures/recordings.

DEMOCRAT

10) Tell Democrats to release their ballot, when asked, for “fairness/equality to help the poor, elderly, or disadvantaged”. Ask for their ballots.

Alinsky said beat your opponent with their own criminal rules. Democrats are also vulnerable to harvest fraud.

VOTER ID

This establishes the new Provisional Voting guide.

This addresses the new Election methods in America.

Remember to
+ deny all,
+ admit nothing,
+ silence is good,
diversion is better,
“I don’t recall”,
“I don’t know”.

Print this out and freely distribute it.
(c) Anonymous


27 posted on 01/02/2019 9:44:22 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: george76

bttt


28 posted on 01/02/2019 9:47:06 AM PST by timestax
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To: TheNext

OFFICIAL BALLOT HARVESTING GUIDE

1) Locate vulnerable Urban SWING districts.

2) Organize Suburban & Rural Republicans.

3) Establish a country informal “Acting” Election Secretary to balance Urban Secretary fraud.

Before Election Day ...

DEMOCRAT

4) Go door to door and collect Democrat ballots in the Big City, Swing District.

5) Celebrate with a bonfire.

REPUBLICAN

6) Collect/print many blank Provisional Ballots.

7) DuckDuckGo search Random Name Generator.

8) Submit multiple Republican ballots in the Swing District.

Any questions need one response, “I don’t know.”

Democrat Judges are CRIMINAL Frauds who ban all forms of Election PROOF of FRAUD. That is the Scam Democrat criminal Judges run. They should be imprisoned for Election Fraud Enabling.

Since election Proof of Fraud is Banned,

+ Serialized ballot proof is banned, hence en-mass ballot copying is enabled.
+ Voter ID proof is banned, hence random name generators are enabled.
+ Ballot Picture proof is banned, hence anonymous multi voting is enabled.

REPUBLICAN

9) Teach Republicans to never give up their ballot to a third party. Take pictures/recordings.

DEMOCRAT

10) Tell Democrats to release their ballot, when asked, for “fairness/equality to help the poor, elderly, or disadvantaged”. Ask for their ballots.

Alinsky said beat your opponent with their own criminal rules. Democrats are also vulnerable to harvest fraud.

GUIDE

This establishes the new Provisional Voting guide.

This addresses the new Election methods in America.

Remember to
+ deny all,
+ admit nothing,
+ silence is good,
+ diversion is better,
“I don’t recall”,
“I don’t know”.

Print this out and freely distribute it.
(c) Anonymous


29 posted on 01/02/2019 10:13:33 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

You are making the erroneous assumption that these “3rd world shi+hole idiots” are thinking about this at all. They aren’t, they have no understanding whatsoever of what they are doing, and they do not care to learn, why should they? They are here only to pilfer and pillage.


30 posted on 01/02/2019 10:29:12 AM PST by erkelly
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To: TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana

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31 posted on 01/02/2019 10:29:46 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: TheNext

I think this is a states right issue of some sort, and the other 48 states need to sue California and Arizona for this, and take it to the supreme court. Also, there was an article posted on this forum a few weeks ago but the federal govt’s mandated constitutional duty to ensure fair elections in the states, and a republican form of govt in the states. “Ballot harvesting” ensures there will be fraud, and a totalitarian one-party state.


32 posted on 01/02/2019 10:33:19 AM PST by erkelly
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To: Reno89519

Perhaps we should, in each of our states, start ballot initiatives calling for an amendment to the constitution, paper ballots only, proof of citizenship, proof of residency in the district, and picture ID.

Also, if President Trump does not take a strong aggressive stance, and plenty of legal action across the nation, about the issue of election integrity, our country will fall just as sure as it will if we do not protect our borders.

Also, he needs to do something about these ridiculous courts overturning his lawful EOs that enforce the laws of this country.


33 posted on 01/02/2019 10:37:30 AM PST by erkelly
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To: george76

Minnesota allows a resident to vouch (verbally) for up to 9 unknown voters. Our system is more “progressive” than even California’s. This is how Franken became a senator, and we now have a felon muslim congresswoman.


34 posted on 01/02/2019 10:52:10 AM PST by horsappl
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To: erkelly

I live in Cal Dist 39. We are 75% conservative Republicans yet we lost to a corrupt liberal. I have lost my right to vote. No matter how many of us vote for a conservative Republican, the communist Democrats will wait until election day, figure out how many votes they need, then harvest that plus an additional 500 votes to guarantee a win. It took them a month, after the election, to harvest enough votes to beat Young Kim. In summary, I have lost my right to vote and the Rinos in Congress will not do anything about it. They will not even return my phone calls on the subject. The Republican party in California is silent. They appear to be happy with the results.


35 posted on 01/02/2019 10:52:59 AM PST by robert14
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To: erkelly

There is no States’ Right to fraud. Period.


36 posted on 01/02/2019 10:53:36 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: george76; All
"Today, non-citizens vote, by getting hold of indifferent Americans, and filling in the ballots by proxy, no fingerprints visible."

Patriots, regarding alleged ballot box stuffing by Democrats in 2018 midterm elections for example, we urgently need to find a way to direct Pres. Trump's attention to the following material, particularly where undocumented Democrats are concerned.

The material shows that the Founding States had given government power to give people the power to vote for federal elected offices only to the federal government, not the state governments, only citizens defined under the Constitution, not today's undocumented Democrats for example, having the power to vote.

More specifically, the congressional record shows that post-Civil War federal lawmakers had indicated that the Constitution's "uniform Rule of Naturalization" clause, Article I, Section 8, Clause 4, was intended in part to prohibit the states from giving the power to vote to noncitizens.

In fact, much of the material in the left column of the page referenced below shows arguments from a previous generation of jurists and statesmen who used nothing more than common sense to explain that one possible major problem with giving noncitizens the power to vote is to attempt to overthrow the federal government. Here are some excerpts from that page.

Note that the first excerpt indicates that any states that give undocumented Democrats (my words) the power to vote effectively nullifies the "uniform Rule of Naturalization" clause. (Doing so is treason imo.)

Consider that the arguments about citizens' voting rights probably helped to inspire Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, another voting rights-related constitutional clause that Trump needs to work with the states to enforce for 2020 elections.

Patriots, please consider that the constitutionally limited power federal government should be run only by Constitution-savvy patriots, not Democrats or RINOs, patriots who will actually do their duty to protect and defend the Constitution.

The states can be run by RINOs or Democrats under the following conditions. Patriots need to elect a patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will do its duty to enforce the fed's constitutional obligation not only to insure a republican form of government for each state, but also to exercise Congress's power to make penal laws to discourage activist state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights, especially 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression and free speech.

From the 14th Amendment:

Once we have a patriot Congress that will do its job to protect constitutionally enumerated rights from abridgment by state actors, then Republican or Democratic-run states can do the following. They can close down unconstitutional federal domestic social spending programs and individually experiment with their own social programs as the Founding States had intended for the states, not the feds, to do, state programs ultimately decided by what legal majority voters of a given state want.

Corrections, insights welcome.

37 posted on 01/02/2019 11:36:31 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Once vote harvesting begins in New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc., we will forever loose control of all three branches of government. I expect vote harvesting to be a big deal in purple states in the 2020 election. We will loose the House, Senate, and President. No one seems to understand or care what a threat to our constitition this is.


38 posted on 01/02/2019 12:33:46 PM PST by robert14
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To: robert14; All
"No one seems to understand or care what a threat to our constitition this is."

This is why patriots need to get mover and shaker PDJT up to speed with unconstitutional voting by undocumented Democrats.

39 posted on 01/02/2019 12:59:10 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Not blue. Blue is a Conservative color. Commie-Totalitarian RED.

You're barking into the wind, friend. That fight was settled a long time ago.

40 posted on 01/02/2019 2:11:20 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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