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Gun Owners Don't Seem Eager to Comply With New Jersey's New Magazine Ban
Reason ^ | December 20, 2018 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/01/2019 6:34:19 AM PST by Twotone

Thanks to a December 5 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, New Jersey's ban on gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds took effect on December 10. By that date, all owners of heretofore legal "large capacity magazines" (LCMs) were required to surrender them to police, render them inoperable, modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds, or sell them to authorized owners. Those who failed to do so are guilty of a fourth-degree felony, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 and up to 18 months in prison.

How many of New Jersey's 1 million or so gun owners have complied with the ban by turning LCMs in to law enforcement agencies? Approximately zero, judging from an investigation by Ammoland writer John Crump. Crump, an NRA instructor and gun rights activist, "reached out to several local police departments in New Jersey" and found that "none had a single report of magazines turned over." He also contacted the New Jersey State Police, which has not officially responded to his inquiry. But "two sources from within the State Police," speaking on condition of anonymity, said "they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: badabing; badaboom; banglist; compliance; enforcement; gardenstate; magazineban; newjersey; nj
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1 posted on 01/01/2019 6:34:19 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

We have the same ridiculous law in CT.


2 posted on 01/01/2019 6:41:02 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says)
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To: Twotone
...modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds...

Easy-peasy. All done. NJ needs to move on.

3 posted on 01/01/2019 6:42:17 AM PST by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question the question?- name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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To: Twotone

MOLON LABE.

Gun confiscation is a tall order. Yeah that’s the ticket in getting gun rounds out of civilian lands.

Its like Prohibition. Some things simply run into human nature.


4 posted on 01/01/2019 6:44:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Puppage
"We have the same ridiculous law in CT."

And apparently, there are almost zero Connecticut gun owners who own any "LCMs", AKA: "standard capacity magazines".
Else we would have turned in thousands.

5 posted on 01/01/2019 6:47:55 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Libloather

And if people want them to hold more than 10 rounds, who’s gonna stop them?

Not NJ.


6 posted on 01/01/2019 6:48:00 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Twotone

Maybe the folks who owned any just blocked them to 10 rounds..?? There actually are responsible people left in the world..


7 posted on 01/01/2019 6:48:09 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Psalm 73

I’m not sure what you’re thinking, but thousands of magazines were handed in, registered or moved out of state.

CT complied quite nicely, actually.


8 posted on 01/01/2019 6:51:21 AM PST by Celerity
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To: jughandle

Its really about finding out who to confiscate guns from. People aren’t stupid.

That’s why this goes in the wastebasket and no one’s complying.


9 posted on 01/01/2019 6:52:19 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Twotone

The libs say we are all free to pick and choose between laws we want to follow. Not that gun owners would be falling over each other to comply anyway, but it’s hypocritical for anybody who flaunts the law to complain. Immigration defiance provides a rationalization for anyone to do likewise.


10 posted on 01/01/2019 6:53:45 AM PST by Spok
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To: Spok

Anti-gun laws are a form of liberal virtue-signaling. They’re meant to show politicians are tough on guns without really doing anything about the criminal misuse of guns.

They provide a false sense of security without really affecting the crime rate at all.

But liberal politicians can say they did something to stop dangerous guns.


11 posted on 01/01/2019 6:59:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

How many gang bangers have been charged with carrying an illegal magazine?


12 posted on 01/01/2019 7:00:32 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: Twotone

This will get worse before it gets better (if we force it to get better).
With the dimbulbs in power now, we will have to decide what the tipping point is, and start saying “no” to the progs.
After “no”, it’s “hell no”, then “bring it, Obamaholes”.


13 posted on 01/01/2019 7:02:34 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Celerity

Complying with such laws would not be something to brag about. And I doubt most actually complied, unless CT has a deep apparatus in place.


14 posted on 01/01/2019 7:05:40 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: jughandle

Children believe in Santa Claus and unicorns too.

Patriots decry such silliness and quietly stand ready.


15 posted on 01/01/2019 7:07:29 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Puppage

No, we don’t. We are not required to surrender them. I still have my 17 round mags for my Ruger. I can use them at the range or keep my gun loaded with them at home. I’m certainly not saying I agree with these bans but NJ is trying to force people to turn them in.


16 posted on 01/01/2019 7:10:03 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!"to d)
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To: Twotone
...modify them so they cannot hold more than 10 rounds...

Easy enough - put a sticker on the mags that says, "Do not insert more than 10 rounds at a time." Then give it the heed the grabbers give 2nd Amendment and Immigration laws....

17 posted on 01/01/2019 7:10:32 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: Twotone

I wonder who the “authorized owners” are? Probably cops and other government employees, right?


18 posted on 01/01/2019 7:10:48 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!"to d)
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To: Twotone
Those who failed to do so are guilty of a fourth-degree felony, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 and up to 18 months in prison.

I got yer "felony" right here...

19 posted on 01/01/2019 7:18:02 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: kiryandil
But that's the whole idea behind these laws. This has nothing to do with public safety or mass shootings. Ayn Rand called it decades ago.

“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against—then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there it that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of lawbreakers—and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

20 posted on 01/01/2019 7:21:01 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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