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Iran says general fatally shot himself by accident
FoxNews ^ | December 17, 2018

Posted on 12/17/2018 4:55:02 AM PST by billorites

TEHRAN, Iran – The website of Iran's Revolutionary Guard is reporting that a general who fought in Syria and Iraq has allegedly accidentally killed himself while cleaning a gun.

Gen. Ghodratollah Mansouri allegedly shot himself in the head by accident while cleaning his pistol, according to the Sunday report.

The report added that Mansouri was veteran of the 1980s Iran-Iraq war and a "defender of the shrine," a reference to Iranians who fight against the extremist Islamic State (ISIS) group in Syria and Iraq.

Since 2014, Mansouri was a regional commander of the Guard's ground forces in the northeastern city of Mashhad, some 560 miles east of the capital Tehran.

Hundreds of Iranian forces have been killed fighting ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 201812; coverstory; ghodratollahmansouri; goodriddance; iran; iraq; irg; irgc; mansouri; mashhad; oops; qasemsoleimani; qudsforce; rop; selfinflicted; smokescreen; suicide; syria
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To: wastoute

Single action revolvers. Can’t fire by just pulling the trigger.


21 posted on 12/17/2018 5:15:47 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: ExSES

Twice.


22 posted on 12/17/2018 5:17:09 AM PST by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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To: billorites
"I'm making out the report now. We haven't quite decided whether he committed suicide or died trying to escape."

- Captain Louis Renault, Casablanca

23 posted on 12/17/2018 5:19:11 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.arare)
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To: pepsionice

A good Muslim get drunk?


24 posted on 12/17/2018 5:20:10 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: NEBO

That would be my thought also, what did he have on the Clintons?


25 posted on 12/17/2018 5:20:28 AM PST by sport
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

My personal feeling is that he shot him intentionally (suicide) and in the Iranian world....to explain something like this without saying the word suicide....you’d just say it was an accident.

If this had been state-sponsored (carried out by the state’s thugs) then they would not have allowed the story to be published within the country.


26 posted on 12/17/2018 5:21:52 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Or with respect to the latter, they can always blame unapprehended Israeli spies.

A good Mahometan could never commit suicide if it were not in the context of attacking non-Mahometans.


27 posted on 12/17/2018 5:37:24 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: wastoute

Yep, old revolvers and .45/70 rifles back then had hammers which had to be back for them to fire. Do what you want with them until you heard the “snick,snick”, then all bets were off.


28 posted on 12/17/2018 5:43:40 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: billorites
Lots of factors here.

Having risen to the rank of General in that environment, I'm sure he wasn't a stranger to handling and using weapons. So it sounds fishy.

However, even here people familiar with handling weapons (too familiar?) get careless, make mistakes. Although those negligent discharges usually take a toll on bystanders. So it could be.

He had fought in Syria and Iraq. So he had make recent enemies, made a name for himself. Maybe enough (on both counts) that they would come after him and assassinate him. So it sounds fishy.

I'm not sure how you fatally shoot yourself while cleaning a weapon. When I'm cleaning one of my pistols, rifles, my revolver or shotgun... I just never have the weapon pointed at myself. When I do a bore inspection by that point in the disassembly it is no longer a weapon, it is just a steel tube. So it sounds fishy.

29 posted on 12/17/2018 5:45:21 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: crusadersoldier

You overlooked an obvious shooter, a Saudi agent

Saudi Arabia is in a hot war with Iran in Yemen


30 posted on 12/17/2018 5:45:49 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: Meadow Muffin

“two humpers” - a double entendre’ if ever there was.

Which I just turned into a the world’s first triple!


31 posted on 12/17/2018 5:57:53 AM PST by The Duke (President Trump = America's Last, Best Chanceh)
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To: billorites

“several times”


32 posted on 12/17/2018 5:58:47 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: billorites

An Army officer cleaning his own gun? Really? Maybe this guy was another Von Staufenburg?


33 posted on 12/17/2018 6:21:35 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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To: billorites


"Killin' generals could get to be a habit with me."
34 posted on 12/17/2018 6:28:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: billorites

It is possible to be an accidental discharge with poor handling of the weapon during unloading/cleaning, including while under the influence of drugs, alcohol, fatigue, etc. This is especially believable if the wound is not contact, but just close range, and not at the midline of the front of the face (including central forehead, between the eyes, and under the chin), not intra-oral, and not at a temple or ear canal (frequent places for intentional self-inflicted shooting, rather than oddly across the nose, or chin, or side of the head, etc.), and not with a direct angle through the head (not straight across, or backward, or diagonally up and back, etc., but instead with a grazing/tangential type path across the head/chin/cheek/forehead, etc.). There are true suicides with the shot at the back of the head, and it’s not hard to do with a handgun—just grip the frame/barrel near the muzzle with one hand and place the muzzle against the back of the head, and trigger it with the thumb of the other hand—no need to imagine trying to hold the gun with one hand in the usual fashion and then place the muzzle against the head, which would require some contortion. Of course, we know no details on this general’s actual wound (location, contact or not, etc.). But yes, most notables/celebrities with a “gun cleaning accident” are likely suicides, just said that way to spare the family’s feelings and protect the decedent’s “reputation.”


35 posted on 12/17/2018 6:28:45 AM PST by Notthemomma
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To: billorites

Does he still get his 75 virgins?


36 posted on 12/17/2018 6:33:35 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Blue House Sue
"I bet it was the Mossad Pistol Cleaning Service."

Impossible!

37 posted on 12/17/2018 6:41:58 AM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: billorites

I acted in a theater with a man, a physician, who was killed accidentally while cleaning his handgun.

My question is why is a general cleaning a gun? He could just tell someone to do that.


38 posted on 12/17/2018 6:53:16 AM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

My question is why is a general cleaning a gun? He could just tell someone to do that.
== = =

Maybe he did tell some one to ‘clean his gun’.

And that someone shot him.


39 posted on 12/17/2018 7:38:23 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: billorites

“Iran says general fatally shot himself by accident”

I hate when that happens! (Unless there’s a member of the iranian military involved)


40 posted on 12/17/2018 8:17:59 AM PST by utax
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