Posted on 12/17/2018 4:55:02 AM PST by billorites
TEHRAN, Iran The website of Iran's Revolutionary Guard is reporting that a general who fought in Syria and Iraq has allegedly accidentally killed himself while cleaning a gun.
Gen. Ghodratollah Mansouri allegedly shot himself in the head by accident while cleaning his pistol, according to the Sunday report.
The report added that Mansouri was veteran of the 1980s Iran-Iraq war and a "defender of the shrine," a reference to Iranians who fight against the extremist Islamic State (ISIS) group in Syria and Iraq.
Since 2014, Mansouri was a regional commander of the Guard's ground forces in the northeastern city of Mashhad, some 560 miles east of the capital Tehran.
Hundreds of Iranian forces have been killed fighting ISIS in Syria and Iraq.
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Single action revolvers. Cant fire by just pulling the trigger.
Twice.
- Captain Louis Renault, Casablanca
A good Muslim get drunk?
That would be my thought also, what did he have on the Clintons?
My personal feeling is that he shot him intentionally (suicide) and in the Iranian world....to explain something like this without saying the word suicide....you’d just say it was an accident.
If this had been state-sponsored (carried out by the state’s thugs) then they would not have allowed the story to be published within the country.
Or with respect to the latter, they can always blame unapprehended Israeli spies.
A good Mahometan could never commit suicide if it were not in the context of attacking non-Mahometans.
Yep, old revolvers and .45/70 rifles back then had hammers which had to be back for them to fire. Do what you want with them until you heard the “snick,snick”, then all bets were off.
Having risen to the rank of General in that environment, I'm sure he wasn't a stranger to handling and using weapons. So it sounds fishy.
However, even here people familiar with handling weapons (too familiar?) get careless, make mistakes. Although those negligent discharges usually take a toll on bystanders. So it could be.
He had fought in Syria and Iraq. So he had make recent enemies, made a name for himself. Maybe enough (on both counts) that they would come after him and assassinate him. So it sounds fishy.
I'm not sure how you fatally shoot yourself while cleaning a weapon. When I'm cleaning one of my pistols, rifles, my revolver or shotgun... I just never have the weapon pointed at myself. When I do a bore inspection by that point in the disassembly it is no longer a weapon, it is just a steel tube. So it sounds fishy.
You overlooked an obvious shooter, a Saudi agent
Saudi Arabia is in a hot war with Iran in Yemen
“two humpers” - a double entendre’ if ever there was.
Which I just turned into a the world’s first triple!
“several times”
An Army officer cleaning his own gun? Really? Maybe this guy was another Von Staufenburg?
It is possible to be an accidental discharge with poor handling of the weapon during unloading/cleaning, including while under the influence of drugs, alcohol, fatigue, etc. This is especially believable if the wound is not contact, but just close range, and not at the midline of the front of the face (including central forehead, between the eyes, and under the chin), not intra-oral, and not at a temple or ear canal (frequent places for intentional self-inflicted shooting, rather than oddly across the nose, or chin, or side of the head, etc.), and not with a direct angle through the head (not straight across, or backward, or diagonally up and back, etc., but instead with a grazing/tangential type path across the head/chin/cheek/forehead, etc.). There are true suicides with the shot at the back of the head, and it’s not hard to do with a handgun—just grip the frame/barrel near the muzzle with one hand and place the muzzle against the back of the head, and trigger it with the thumb of the other hand—no need to imagine trying to hold the gun with one hand in the usual fashion and then place the muzzle against the head, which would require some contortion. Of course, we know no details on this general’s actual wound (location, contact or not, etc.). But yes, most notables/celebrities with a “gun cleaning accident” are likely suicides, just said that way to spare the family’s feelings and protect the decedent’s “reputation.”
Does he still get his 75 virgins?
Impossible!
I acted in a theater with a man, a physician, who was killed accidentally while cleaning his handgun.
My question is why is a general cleaning a gun? He could just tell someone to do that.
My question is why is a general cleaning a gun? He could just tell someone to do that.
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Maybe he did tell some one to ‘clean his gun’.
And that someone shot him.
“Iran says general fatally shot himself by accident”
I hate when that happens! (Unless there’s a member of the iranian military involved)
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