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Our National Debt - Almost 22 Trillion
US Debt Clock ^

Posted on 12/16/2018 9:19:51 AM PST by Java4Jay

Crickets from Washington

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: incometaxes; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja
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To: Java4Jay

This is just the beginning.


21 posted on 12/16/2018 9:47:46 AM PST by mulligan (EeThe)
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To: Java4Jay

Thank God for Credit Money and Central Banking, otherwise Bread would still be 10 cents and a gallon of milk would still be 60 cents like it was before Nixon closed the Gold Window and put us on the Path of Serfdom with the Bankers firmly in charge


22 posted on 12/16/2018 9:52:58 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Java4Jay

Obviously, Trump’s fault.


23 posted on 12/16/2018 10:10:47 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: All

The insane asylum of our era.


24 posted on 12/16/2018 10:19:38 AM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; Dems may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Java4Jay

Remember almost half of it was added by Obama


25 posted on 12/16/2018 10:57:40 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Java4Jay

We aren’t paying it back. Nobody wants to admit it just yet, but we aren’t paying.

We will do what every third world country does. We will issue a “new dollar” and the “old dollar” will be shifted a couple of decimal points. So 22 Trillion will become 220 Billion new dollars that will be promptly printed and exchanged for “old dollar” debts.

Oh, Your paychecks and savings will also be shifted a couple of decimal points too.

Problem solved.


26 posted on 12/16/2018 11:07:22 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Java4Jay

Unfunded liabilities will remain unfunded.

Your expectations for what those liabilities cover, if you are a recipient will need to be recalibrated downward significantly


27 posted on 12/16/2018 11:10:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: JPJones

“Dollar inflation. Lot’s of it.”

Well, or course! I was just thinking of the order in which Congress MIGHT take action. But they won’t, so you’re most likely right. And, as usual, We The People, LOSE. :(


28 posted on 12/16/2018 11:40:47 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: Java4Jay

Government won’t turn on a dime unless the people do a wholesale change of how it works. There is no way short of insurrection that will return power to the people in single generation.

If our debt turns down before the three trillion mark, Trump will have performed a miracle.


29 posted on 12/16/2018 12:14:11 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: DoodleDawg

Seems like I read it’s down to about $650b per year at this time.

I don’t think the economy has taken off to the full extent yet. In the next few years federal income should rise.

The question is, will Trump be able to keep Congressional spending in line?

I agree with others that Obama would have ballooned out the debt much further than Trump supposedly has by now.

Congress is the spending entity. The president can impact that favorably though.


30 posted on 12/16/2018 12:48:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Mozzafiato

Wonder if they could not incentivize savings—for individual employees...Personal gain could be a great motivator...Like offering perks such as close parking,tickets to something a trip somewhere for realized departmental savings...

Saving money, and having employees do it because they want to...


31 posted on 12/16/2018 1:15:42 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: DoughtyOne
Seems like I read it’s down to about $650b per year at this time.

The FY2018 deficit was $780 billion. The deficit for the first two months of FY2019 was $305 billion. There is little doubt the deficit will break a trillion easy.

I don’t think the economy has taken off to the full extent yet. In the next few years federal income should rise.

The growth of the economy over the past year was the best it's been in may years. Federal income rose over 2017 but spending rose at a higher rate.

The question is, will Trump be able to keep Congressional spending in line?

He hasn't even tried.

32 posted on 12/16/2018 1:33:42 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Well, or course! I was just thinking of the order in which Congress MIGHT take action. But they won’t, so you’re most likely right.”

Sorry, I didn’t mean to be a debbiedowner. Ya never know, congress might get it right, someday.

“And, as usual, We The People, LOSE. :(”

Not necessarily, do you own a house? Hold on to it. Inflation can make you rich if you buy and hold the right stuff.


33 posted on 12/16/2018 2:02:34 PM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I’m really sorry how irate you are at Trump’s failures...


34 posted on 12/16/2018 2:34:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Java4Jay

The chickens are gathering and they will start coming home soon.


35 posted on 12/16/2018 2:44:19 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Mozzafiato

5% on military and vets benefits? 5% on social security? 5% on everything else? I am all for it, but it will never happen.

If they just froze everything for three years, we would be OK.


36 posted on 12/16/2018 2:47:32 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Freedom56v2

Saving money? You mean giving money to banks that can be loaned out at 80:1? Yes, let’s do all that.

Or you could buy stocks that are inflated. Or invest in land, where property taxes are out of control.

Or just pay off your debts, buy gold and keep your head down and pointed in the right direction.


37 posted on 12/16/2018 2:51:30 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Java4Jay

Crickets from liberals as it was being raised more than any other president under Obama.


38 posted on 12/16/2018 2:51:42 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m really sorry how irate you are at Trump’s failures...

More disappointed than irate. I had hoped for better after what he said about the deficit during the campaign.

39 posted on 12/16/2018 3:08:20 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

We weren’t going to get anything near this good from anyone else. None of them had the business acumen to do what he has done.

I do believe we will be a lot better off with him than we would have been otherwise.

I don’t want deficit spending either. Who could have done better?

I am really curious what is going on with the stick market. We have a good economy and it’s acting like the end of the world is coming.


40 posted on 12/16/2018 3:15:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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