Posted on 11/26/2018 7:23:38 PM PST by TBP
Russia over the weekend mounted its most serious aggression against Ukraine since President Trump took office, and America punted.
Trumps outgoing ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, described the chain of events that led to the current standoff at the Black Sea as an outrageous violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory. She vowed that Washington and its friends would stand with Kiev.
So whats the plan? It is our expectation that our European partners will lead this effort through the Normandy Four format, Haley said, referring to a toothless Barack Obama-era gabfest that has mostly served to legitimize Moscows illegal annexation of Crimea and invasion of eastern Ukraine.
Trusting that diplomatic channel is like showing up to a gunboat fight without even a knife.
Consider what happened: Three Ukrainian vessels headed from Ukraines Black Sea port of Odessa to a Ukrainian port in the Sea of Azov. In the Kerch Strait, which separates the two bodies of water, Russian warships fired at the Ukrainians, injured crew members and seized the vessels.
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Russia a threat? Facebook and Google are bigger threats to Americans.
No one in their right mind would want a war with Russia. That explains why the tardbrains on the Left have no problem trying to push us into one over their sedicious and manufactured attempt at a real American coup attempt on Trump.
However, just to clarify a few points here, Russia wants geopolitical domination over EU foreign and domestic economic policy. Key to this is their ability to control energy flow into Europe.
Already, Europe depends on energy flowing through Russian controlled routes to Europe through Belarus and the main Caspian/Caucus trunk lines which travel toward Europe along shared Turkish and Syrian territory largely under Russian controlled routes and airspace.
This control of energy flow, was how the Russians were able to turn off the gas in the Ukraine and central Europe during the winter, just to let the Germans and the EU know what they were capable of. For the Germans and central Europe, it was brief. For the Ukraine this has happened multiple times, and for extended periods of time during winter.
So here is a little of what is really going on.
Ukraine has a very significant energy belt which runs from it’s southeastern border in the Donetsk region, which trends nearly all the way to their border with Belarus in the northwest. For Russia, taking this energy belt away from the Ukraine is strategic, in that it keeps Ukraine from selling it’s own energy to Europe, and it forces Ukraine back into submission of the Russian Federation an email away from NATO and Europe.
Russia also cannot have a rogue Ukranian military power and Ukrainian Navy right in the geographic middle of it’s own naval supply routes from its Black Sea Fleet on the Crimean Peninsula, running to Tartus on the southern Syrian border just north of Lebanon.
Russia has already militarily taken a large area of eastern Ukraine where Ukrains large coal and gas reserves were located, and Russia is amassing its forces
again to probably take another large area of Ukrainian energy deposits, and Rich farm land.
However, the next phase will likely be more difficult for Russia. This is one of the reasons why Russia is building this large dual purpose supply bridge from Russia to the Crimean Peninsula, as once it is finished, Russia will be able to move armor and supplies on to the Crimean Peninsula without having to move supplies over water.
This is all strategic for Russia, as this bridge will allow Russia to flank Ukrainian forces from both the east and west, and take several thousand more square miles of Ukraine, while essentially eliminating Ukrainian Naval port and refueling facilities.
The Ukrainian people are in for some much more rough times.
Wow, the auto phrase and vocab correct is really bad on this phone.
None of Americans business. We are already fighting eight wars simultaneously.
[No one in their right mind would want a war with Russia.]
[None of Americans business. We are already fighting eight wars simultaneously.]
I don't know their recent history well enough to dispute that.
On the other hand, I am not sure why Crimea would owe any special allegiance or feel any special loyalty to Ukraine.
Over the last 600 years, Crimea has been ruled by the Mongol Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, and various Cossack and Tartar warlords.
It did not become part of Ukraine until 1954, under the former USSR.
Bottom Line...
Ukraine has been an economic mess since the USSR collapsed.
It is not unreasonable to believe that a majority of Crimeans decided that Putin offered a better future than Ukraine did.
Who are Hunter Biden's Ukrainian bosses?
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Please remain standing, so we can stand with the Brigadier General and the Sergeant Major.
“Regarding Putin, Xi, and other dictators and aggressors: Weakness is provocative.” — @BillKristol
“Are we appeasing Russia?” — Glenn Beck
I do not think you intentions matter much to those in Command.
In for a penny; in for a pound.
"I, ichabod1, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Trump didn’t blink - he’s not rash enough to attack Russia as they go about ‘local” politics....if/when he attacks someone, it will be a sight for those who miss the days when we fought to win and will require more than what Putin has been wreaking on the area....so far.
I dunno.. sounds like more gas pipeline wars.. let Europe send their sons and daughters to those, including Syria... or freeze.
Morally, we have our own problems to fix like borders and election fraud.
I do agree this sounds eerily familiar like world war familiar. Some days i can’t decide whether i am reading history or current events. It’s just getting harder to tell who is the good guy we should be supporting from afar.
No American sons or daughters should be taking care of this, just yet.
FAKE NEWS!
Russia is RIGHT here. THEY were attacked! Provoked for Ukrainian internal political reasons.
Good old Strelkov...Russia's version of Ollie North. I'd take anything he had to say with a grain or two of salt.
Who exactly did he "confess" to anyway...his publicist?
Ukrainians unleashing fires again....this is why Porenshenko declaring martial law
That's not a scary fire...Porochenko must be afraid of his own shadow.
Let me know when the fires get this big...and I'll bring the marsh mellows.
We can sanction them. We can put missile defense back in Eaatern Europe. There are measures we can take that don’t involve war.
You guys and your Conspiracy theories. It’s just laughable.
Folks, nations have interactions every single day.
It’s like you assessing Russia for hacking our elections.
Okay, maybe that’s a bit much, but there are things that take place between us and other nations every day.
To hear you tell it, WE ARE the great Satan.
Not buying it. The Ukrane had the right to do whatever it pleased. Russia coming in to abscond with territory was not justified on ANY level.
Well we have another person who thinks the U. S. is the great Satan.
What are you folks doing here?
The U. S. now owns Kosovo? Geez, who knew?
Meh...its more like you can’t present a logical fact based rebuttal and created a man of straw instead. Have fun burning it.
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