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Russia made its move — and Trump blinked
New York Post ^ | November 26, 2018 | Benny Avni

Posted on 11/26/2018 7:23:38 PM PST by TBP

Russia over the weekend mounted its most serious aggression against Ukraine since President Trump took office, and America punted.

Trump’s outgoing ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, described the chain of events that led to the current standoff at the Black Sea as an “outrageous violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.” She vowed that Washington and its friends would stand with Kiev.

So what’s the plan? “It is our expectation that our European partners will lead this effort through the Normandy Four format,” Haley said, referring to a toothless Barack Obama-era gabfest that has mostly served to legitimize Moscow’s illegal annexation of Crimea and invasion of eastern Ukraine.

Trusting that diplomatic channel is like showing up to a gunboat fight without even a knife.

Consider what happened: Three Ukrainian vessels headed from Ukraine’s Black Sea port of Odessa to a Ukrainian port in the Sea of Azov. In the Kerch Strait, which separates the two bodies of water, Russian warships fired at the Ukrainians, injured crew members and seized the vessels.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Russia; US: New York
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We need to stand with Ukraine, not only for moral and national security reasons, but for political ones as well.
1 posted on 11/26/2018 7:23:38 PM PST by TBP
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NONE of our biz, esp while we are being freakin’ INVADED.


2 posted on 11/26/2018 7:24:31 PM PST by gaijin
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To: TBP

Are you young enough to be drafted and fight?


3 posted on 11/26/2018 7:25:56 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: gaijin

Russia is a threat to us too.


4 posted on 11/26/2018 7:25:59 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP
Article author, Benny Avni

Thinks it's time for American farmboys to go out and fight again, cuz, uh....JESUS wants them to.

He promises.

5 posted on 11/26/2018 7:27:19 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Trump not letting himself be forced into a course of action. That is what he does to others. Just stand by and watch.


6 posted on 11/26/2018 7:27:29 PM PST by D Rider
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To: TBP

FALSE FLAG! Ukraine and NATO special forces were attempting to nuke the bridge over the Kerch Strait.


7 posted on 11/26/2018 7:28:11 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: TBP

MSM and liberals scream that Trump is a hothead and will be a warmonger and will get us embroiled in a war no one wants!!!

So he isn’t a hothead, not a warmonger, and is practical when dealing with foreign affairs. And they’re pissed? He can’t win with these guys. Let’s not rush into war, we have enough problems to fix at home.


8 posted on 11/26/2018 7:28:56 PM PST by roadcat
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To: gaijin

I joined the US Military to Fight In The MIDDLE EAST Not On Some Border!


9 posted on 11/26/2018 7:30:15 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: gaijin

Happy Hannukah!


10 posted on 11/26/2018 7:30:40 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: ichabod1

Ukraine’s president is about to lose office; what better way to remain than to provoke a crisis?


11 posted on 11/26/2018 7:34:51 PM PST by CondorFlight
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The Left never a lover of military action over the last 18 years, is now a fan of military action.

Sadly, the Left for the last 70 years, hasn’t had clue one when to use our military.

Trump is trying to use diplomatic action. That’s what he should do.

The Russian / Ukraine issue is a messy one. Russia took Crimea by force, but there re pseudo Conservatives who think that was entirely justified.

No use trying to engage on an issue where folks side with international agression over reason.


12 posted on 11/26/2018 7:36:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: TBP

The seized craft in question are two gun boats and a tug captured while attempting to cross under the land link bridge which was blocked by a Russian oil tanker. Russia constructed this link after taking the Crimean peninsula which connects it to Russia via this causeway on the Azov sea


13 posted on 11/26/2018 7:43:31 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: TBP

what we don’t need is a bunch of intellectually inbred, sacks of thumb-sucking dumba**ery msm stooges telling us what we have to do.

What? They want us to go to war?


14 posted on 11/26/2018 7:43:48 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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The first question to answer is whether Ukraine goaded Russia into the hostile actions, and why that might be (a pretext for cancelling elections, possibly).

If so, let them get out of the mess they made for themselves.


15 posted on 11/26/2018 7:43:49 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (I taught AOC everything she knows, and it only took five minutes)
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To: ichabod1

Same fight. How much time have you spent in the AOR?


16 posted on 11/26/2018 7:48:24 PM PST by D Rider
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To: TBP

“We need to stand with Ukraine, not only for moral and national security reasons, but for political ones as well.”

Really?
Did you ever consider a guy like Trump might actually wield a bigger sword internationally if he didn’t have ankle biters at home like:
Democrats
Media (95%)
Academia
And almost ALL establishment Republicans ?

OUR house is on fire now, in case you haven’t noticed.


17 posted on 11/26/2018 7:49:32 PM PST by BAN-ONE
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To: TBP

No we don’t.


18 posted on 11/26/2018 7:50:36 PM PST by TADSLOS (Six out of seven dwarfs arenÂ’t happy.)
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To: TBP

It’s an ongoing dispute. Unlikely that Trump can do very much to resolve it.


19 posted on 11/26/2018 7:52:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BAN-ONE

I neglected to mention the courts.
Manufactured and maintained by all the above..


20 posted on 11/26/2018 7:53:31 PM PST by BAN-ONE
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