Posted on 11/17/2018 11:08:42 AM PST by Pelham
So back to the tragic murder of Jamal Khashoggi. My intelligence sources tell me he had worked as an intelligence agent for the Saudi intelligence service, GID, for around 20 years. At one point he was sent by GID to Sudan to meet Osama bin Laden and to try to lure him away from terrorism. He failed.
Khashoggi had always been close to the Muslim Brotherhood, the people who took over Egypt under Morsi following the so-called Arab Spring. The Muslim Brotherhood is a hard-line Islamist organisation dedicated to the introduction of Sharia and the creation of an Islamic caliphate. These people are no bleeding heart liberals. Indeed, the Muslim Brotherhood has been outlawed as a terrorist organisation in a number of Middle Eastern countries and is part of the Hamas support group. They have been implacably opposed to many of the more liberal reforms of the Saudi Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman (MBS).
To add to the complexity of the story, the Brotherhood is supported by the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Qataris. This is a source of real tension between Saudi Arabia, Egypt and their regional allies on the one side and the Turks and Qataris on the other.
So Jamal Khashoggi – a former Saudi intelligence agent, a man who was close to the Muslim Brotherhood and a sworn opponent of MBS' reform program– was in the process of setting up a centre to promote the ideology of the MB. He was setting it up in Turkey with Qatari money. The Saudis wanted to stop him. In September they offered him $9 million to return to Saudi Arabia and to live there unhindered. They wanted him out of play. Khashoggi refused and the rest you know. The Saudis killed him.
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This guy was played up in the media like forever whereas those guys murdered in Benghazi thanks to Hillary and 0bama got scant press coverage. Where was the outrage over them?
For all we know the guy was CIA.
Indeed, I am having trouble caring at all what the ideological, in-bred and violent Saudis did to another Saudi political opponent.
Yet the response from the US Government, and indeed Trump’s Administration, is that it matters - a lot.
All it demonstrates to me is that the ideological, in-bred, and violent Saudis have far too much influence and effect within our ruling circles.
He’s dead Jim
He’s a casalty of war. A Loser
No matter how much Jamal Khoshoggi is brought up I just can’t seem to come up with a micro gram of I give a F-—!
It is hard for me to weep over this enemy of America and pal of bin Laden. Just the sort of creep that the Washington comPost would hire.
Downer thinks Khashoggi had worked for Saudi intelligence.
But his heart apparently was with the Muslim Brotherhood, an arch enemy of what MBS is trying to do in Saudi Arabia.
I’d seen it suggested very early on that Khashoggi had been playing both sides. Whatever he was doing, the Saudis didn’t like it.
So essentially he was a “rogue” Saudi agent working against their interests, they offered him a safe quiet comfortable landing which he refused, and then they took him out.
I don’t care (much) how the Saudis handle their own problems....
The author is involved in spygate. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he’s CIA. I would not believe anything that he says. Still cannot make myself give a damn about a muslim brotherhood WaPo contributor being whacked.
Among the many character flaws among the press, one is their notion that everything is about them. This incident had nothing to do with the press or their freedom of speech. This guy used his position at the Washington Post as a cover, and you have to wonder if the Post knew that he was a major Muslim Brotherhood operative. I suspect that the Post knew that and much more. They were an enabler for Khashoggi, The Muslim Brotherhood and the Turks, Note that all three are enemies of the United States.
Khashoggi was playing a high stakes game and he lost. The Saudi’s were guilty of their ham fisted actions. The made the Russians look like pros.
Good. I’m glad he’s dead. Hope it hurt. Bad.
He’d be MI6 British intelligence. And despite being involved in spygate what he’s saying in this article is helpful for Trump.
It has to be something like that.
Khashoggi’s Muslim Brotherhood sympathies dated back to 1970 so that in itself wouldn’t have been news to the Saudis. He must have moved up to assisting some serious enemies of MBS like what Downer suspects.
He is Australian and was deeply involved in the Clinton Global Initiative. I would not believe him if he told me water was wet. Clinton scum all through.
Yes indeed, well worth reading just for that. If you look at all his columns they start with “I was just talking to XXX” where XXX is some diplomat/spook/Henry Kissinger. His piece on DJT is somewhat complimentary, which is a surprise. But then again, he lives in the Hall of Mirrors.
Was that covered round the clock by the press and I just wasn't paying attention?
He knew the rules in the ME and broke them. The mediots simply used him as a club.
Maybe hoping to get out of the problems of being involved in a coup against the POTUS.
He got Romaned. Romans 13:3-5 that is.
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