Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

George Will: Abolish the death penalty
The Washington Post ^ | September 28, 2018 | George F. Will

Posted on 09/30/2018 3:06:59 PM PDT by EveningStar

Without being aware of it, Vernon Madison might become a footnote in constitutional law because he is barely aware of anything. For more than 30 years, Alabama, with a tenacity that deserves a better cause, has been trying to execute him for the crime he certainly committed, the 1985 murder of a police officer. Twice the state convicted him unconstitutionally (first excluding African Americans from the jury, then insinuating inadmissible evidence into the record). In a third trial, the judge, who during his time on the bench overrode more life sentences (six) than any other Alabama judge, disregarded the jury’s recommended sentence of life imprisonment and imposed the death penalty...

His counsel of record, Bryan A. Stevenson, head of the Equal Justice Initiative in Montgomery, Ala., says it was undisputed in the penalty phase of Madison’s third trial that he already “suffered from a mental illness marked by paranoid delusions.” ...

Madison’s case compels us to focus on the death penalty in its granular reality: Assisting someone who is non-ambulatory, and bewildered because he is (in Stevenson's phrase) “memory-disordered,” to be strapped down so an executioner can try to find a vein — often a problem with the elderly — to receive a lethal injection. Capital punishment is withering away because the process of litigating the administration of it is so expensive, and hence disproportionate to any demonstrable enhancement of public safety, but also because of a healthy squeamishness that speaks well of us...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: atheism; deathpenalty; fakeconservative; fakeeverything; fakenews; georgewill; liberalagenda; nerdwithabowtie; nevertrumper; scotus; vernonmadison; washingtoncompost; will
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last
To: EveningStar

never trumpers are just liberals playing the MCCain game. George Will might have been conservative once, but he is no longer.


41 posted on 09/30/2018 3:42:26 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Its not the New York Times, its the RACIST New York Times. Please call them that, they've earned it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
it was undisputed in the penalty phase of Madison’s third trial that he already “suffered from a mental illness marked by paranoid delusions.” ...

If he is capable of discerning right or wrong, i.e the McNaughton Rule, he is worthy of the death penalty.

42 posted on 09/30/2018 3:45:50 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Its not the New York Times, its the RACIST New York Times. Please call them that, they've earned it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
Tell ya what,Georgie...we'll abolish it in cases where you or any member of your family is kidnapped,tortured,raped and murdered.How does that sound?

But then it's hard to imagine anyone wanting to rape *you*!

43 posted on 09/30/2018 3:46:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LeonardFMason

His body is, but apparently not his mind.


44 posted on 09/30/2018 3:46:40 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

No.


45 posted on 09/30/2018 3:47:14 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

Take out Hasan first....


46 posted on 09/30/2018 3:48:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

Interesting timing. Someone Will knows is eligible, you think?


47 posted on 09/30/2018 3:48:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
Twice the state convicted him unconstitutionally (first excluding African Americans from the jury)

Stop right there.

Mr. Will, why should that be unconstitutional?

I mean, unseemly, unwise, OK, I can accept that.

But are you saying that white people cannot evaluate evidence fairly? You say, right in your first sentence, that he is unquestionably guilty.

That's the fact. That's what the jury found.

So, the jury did a good job, white, black, or purple.

What is it, Mr. Will, about white people specifically that makes their presence on a black criminal's jury "unconstitutional"?

48 posted on 09/30/2018 3:49:22 PM PDT by Jim Noble
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kickass Conservative

Wasn’t it Tookie Williams?


49 posted on 09/30/2018 3:49:31 PM PDT by LukeL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: MSF BU

Technically, hanging isn’t all that hard to do right, is fast, efficient, cheap, and relatively pain-free.


50 posted on 09/30/2018 3:49:42 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: TaxPayer2000; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

You took the words out of my um fingers.

I never cared for guy but he’s become a complete tool.

I didn’t know but he’s a self-described “low voltage atheist” whatever the hell that means.


51 posted on 09/30/2018 3:50:08 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar
Capital punishment is withering away because the process of litigating the administration of it is so expensive, and hence disproportionate to any demonstrable enhancement of public safety, but also because of a healthy squeamishness that speaks well of us...

We need to get rid of automatic appeals and leave only procedural appeals. that would cut costs dramatically. Healthy squeamishness? I have a healthier squeamishness about leaving murderers alive to kill again. They could escape, kill another inmate, kill a guard,

Also in getting rid of the death penalty, that will be the end of using that as a bargaining chip. If you threaten the death penalty a killer may then enter a plea for life. If life is the ultimate punishment they will try to plead to get out earlier, and then have the opportunity to kill again.

52 posted on 09/30/2018 3:54:17 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Its not the New York Times, its the RACIST New York Times. Please call them that, they've earned it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

George Will and Bill Kristol are destined for the anals of history.


53 posted on 09/30/2018 3:56:11 PM PDT by windsorknot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MSF BU

So does a rope, a branch (or lamp post), and a kitchen chair.


54 posted on 09/30/2018 3:59:26 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Menehune56
Once you’ve succumbed to TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), going full lib is the logical next step.

Actually, while G.W. is T.D.S. in the flesh, he became unreadable long before Trump announced he was running for President.

Here's a guy who wrote about draining the swamp long before it became popular. His biggest problem in those days was, when too many people started agreeing with him, his next column became about some arcane figure of yore with some arcane pronouncement that G.W. thought was applicable today.

His book and pronouncements on Baseball are still the second best of all time after Ted Williams' pronouncements about hitting.

George Will always had the ability to become tedious. He became unreadable only after he proclaimed to the world that he, a man raised and reared a practicing conservative Catholic, was, actually, an atheist.

Apparently, he never understood that atheists, on their most inspiring days, were a soporific lot, i.e. they put their listeners to sleep.

55 posted on 09/30/2018 4:00:58 PM PDT by stevem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

Not so long as people murder people, some in horrendous ways. The DP puts them to sleep - maybe issue them prison jammies?


56 posted on 09/30/2018 4:01:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: maddog55

YUP!


57 posted on 09/30/2018 4:02:30 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: LukeL

Executed in 2005 for a Crime committed in the 1970’s I believe. Justice delayed is Justice denied, or so I was taught.

Back in 2005 Kamala Harris was letting Willie Brown grab her Pussy while she was sucking on his Brown Willie. She wasn’t the CA Attorney General then, she was in training.

She is anti Death Penalty, which is why no Executions happened on her watch. The Law means nothing to a Liberal Democrat or any Democrat for that matter.


58 posted on 09/30/2018 4:03:05 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: EveningStar

How do we resolve the mistake of sending innocent people to Death Row?

We have done that, and will likely do that again.


59 posted on 09/30/2018 4:03:10 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AuH2ORepublican

I have a question about “cruel and unusual punishment”. Does that mean only punishments that are BOTH cruel AND unusual are prohibited and therefore cruel punishments that aren’t unusual or unusual punishments that aren’t cruel are allowed?


60 posted on 09/30/2018 4:03:12 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson