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Forbes: Gun Owners Find It Hard To Be Reasonable
bearingarms.com ^ | 7/31/2018 | Tom Knighton

Posted on 07/31/2018 12:09:12 PM PDT by rktman

I don’t expect much fair treatment from the media. As a gun owner and writer, I look at my colleagues in the mainstream media not so much as colleagues, but as the opposition. Typically, they’ll paint someone like me as anything but a decent human being, so it’s understandable why.

However, Forbes recently did a story about how difficult it is for reasonable gun owners to deal with what they see as unreasonable anti-gunners.

It’s a fairly balanced piece and doesn’t paint gun owners in too negative a light. It does mention some of our more extreme folks, which we all know exist. Hell, I’m pretty sure some people lump me in that category. In some ways, I probably am. I’m an absolutist, after all.

That said, I also support property rights, so if a gun store wants my weapon in a bag too and from the store, that is certainly their right and not an infringement on my Second Amendment rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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First of all, the definition of "reasonable" is too wide ranging. What's "reasonable" to some folks is out of the realm of possibility to others. "Their" definition of "reasonable" is you give up everything for their goals. And buy them dinner too.
1 posted on 07/31/2018 12:09:12 PM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

The Left’s definition of “reasonable” is “my way or the highway.”


2 posted on 07/31/2018 12:12:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600><p>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Liberty for me but none for thee.


3 posted on 07/31/2018 12:13:41 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Get in the Spirit! The Spirit of '76!)
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To: rktman
"That said, I also support property rights, so if a gun store wants my weapon in a bag too and from the store, that is certainly their right and not an infringement on my Second Amendment rights."

What 'gun store' wants this? Is this a straw-man to knock down with a ridiculous argument?

And why should reasonable gun owners HAVE TO deal with unreasonable gun-grabber? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

4 posted on 07/31/2018 12:13:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: All

Hey, Gun Grabbers? I don’t have to be reasonable. I’m armed. STFU and stay out of my way and we’ll get along just fine.

Oops! Was I being unreasonable? Did I make a Snowflake cry? LOL! Hope so! :)


5 posted on 07/31/2018 12:14:39 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: rktman

The word “reasonable” is not in the 2nd Amendment..................


6 posted on 07/31/2018 12:15:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: rktman

People don’t like guns because they are loud and make holes in people. If it was just about the piles of dead bodies, we must also discuss knives, bathtubs and drunks, which make bigger piles than guns.


7 posted on 07/31/2018 12:15:18 PM PDT by lurk
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we know that it won’t stop here. If we give up the AR-15s and swallow background checks on everything, we’ll then have to swallow something else later when that doesn’t work. It’ll keep going and going and going. It won’t stop, and we all know it.”...

True of EVERYTHING, not just the 2A.

The leftist version of compromise is you give something, and they take it.


8 posted on 07/31/2018 12:15:28 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: rktman

I think its reasonable to follow the Constitution.


9 posted on 07/31/2018 12:16:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: rktman

Being reasonable doesn’t prevent a home invader from killing your family.


10 posted on 07/31/2018 12:16:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: rktman

There is no reason because the gun grabbers never offer up a plan whereby there will be no further erosion of gun rights if any given offer is accepted by gun owners. So the only reasonable position by gun advocates is to offer no compromise.


11 posted on 07/31/2018 12:16:34 PM PDT by BRL
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To: rktman
That said, I also support property rights, so if a gun store wants my weapon in a bag too and from the store, that is certainly their right and not an infringement on my Second Amendment rights.

Any BUSINESS has the right to set any rules it chooses, within the law. Consumers have the right to not patronize those businesses if they don't like the rules. Only when GOVERNMENT interferes is it an infringement.

12 posted on 07/31/2018 12:16:45 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rktman

It isn’t difficult to demonstrate to gun prohibitionists how skewed the argument has become. I now ask them, “OK, so you want me to give up thousands of dollars in personal property and something I consider my birthright. What are you willing to give up in return?” The answer is usually either “Nothing”, which gives the game away, or some variation on “I’ll give up a right I don’t want and you give up a right you do want,” which isn’t really any better. In clear truth there’s no reciprocity, no reason, only a cold command to surrender, immediately or incrementally. The only possible answer to that is “No.”


13 posted on 07/31/2018 12:18:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rktman
However, Forbes recently did a story about how difficult it is for reasonable gun owners to deal with what they see as unreasonable anti-gunners.

Having watched the irrationality of the gun-control lobby closely for over three decades, and realizing it existed for decades prior to my noticing it, I don't see any reason to consider the anti-gunners reasonable or even reasoning. Their agenda is clear to me and it is not what they pretend it is.

Here are some samples of the rare times they are honest about it...


14 posted on 07/31/2018 12:19:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think its reasonable to follow the Constitution.

Yep, really can't argue with its success.

15 posted on 07/31/2018 12:19:30 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Oops! Was I being unreasonable?

I think you (along with countless gun owners on a daily basis) have been very, if not overly, reasonable. Why in 1776, the gun grabbers got shot at for much much less.

16 posted on 07/31/2018 12:19:53 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (To close with and destroy....)
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To: lurk

As do hospital/doctor errors, which is about 10X that of death by gun.


17 posted on 07/31/2018 12:20:56 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: TigersEye
Here are some samples of the rare times they are honest about it...

I think the Left and the media are becoming more transparent as Left Wing anti-American activists - the people are starting to understand that The Democrats really are socialists and want to destroy our country.

18 posted on 07/31/2018 12:21:42 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: rktman

Exactly. How can you be “reasonable” with some who wants to stamp on your basic individual rights?


19 posted on 07/31/2018 12:23:14 PM PDT by PGR88
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“Forbes: Gun Owners Find It Hard To Be Reasonable”

Ultra rich aholes like him would probably find it hard to be reasonable and give up their armed body guards.


20 posted on 07/31/2018 12:23:45 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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