Posted on 07/16/2018 8:11:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said today's Trump-Putim summit in Helsinki is not about holding Russia accountable for its cyber-hacking and election interference.
"I think really we mistake our response if we think it's about accountability from the Russians," Paul told CNN's "State of the Union."
They are another country. They are going to spy on us. The do spy on us. They are going to interfere in our elections. We also do the same. Doug Levin at Carnegie Mellon studied this over about a 50-year period in the last century and found 81 times that the U.S. interfered in other country's elections. So we all do it.
What we need to do is make sure our electoral process is protected. And I think because this has gotten partisan and it's all about partisan politics, we've forgotten that really the most important thing is the integrity of our election.
And there are things we can do and things that I've advocated. Making sure it's decentralized all the way down to the precinct level. Making sure we don't store all of the data in one place even for a state and that there's a backup way that someone in the precinct can say 2,000 people signed in. This was the vote tally I sent to headquarters. There's a lot of ways we can back up our election -- advertising and things like that.
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On this issue, Rand and I are one. His perspective (and mine) is the one I have been coming from from day one regarding wondering why the hacking thing is news. Collusion, sure, except that was a farce.
Personally, I think the whole idea of U.S. government officials prosecuting foreigners for “interfering” in U.S. elections is a joke.
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Correct. The fair and balanced response by Putin would be to indict and charge 12 US officials for spying and interfering in Russian elections.
Mueller wants to play petty international politics to make a lame swipe at Trump?
Two can play at that game.
I remember some ex-CIA Analyst on Fox way back before the election when Hillary first brought up Russian interference in the 2nd debate. His response was, “Yeah, of course the Russians are trying to meddle. They have in every single election since the 1940’s, that’s hardly news. And we meddle in their elections, that’s how the intelligence business works.”
Rand Paul should say that as a nation, we have FAR MORE to fear from entitled, secretive, highly politicized, unaccountable government agencies like the CIA and FBI meddling in our elections.
“””Nobody interferes in elections like the US. Period. Been doing it for decades.”””
Ditto. No one wants to talk about the number of times our CIA operatives have been indicted or kicked out a country for election interference.
The current BIG LIE of blaming the Russians has been to obfuscate the real issue of Hillary’s server being hacked and the likely inside job within the DNC to release compromising emails.
Paper ballots and voter ID. Next.
( After all, if the United States wants to investigate meddling) in foreign elections, Israel is a great place to look. Just not for the reason Mueller & Co. think.
First, Obama (according to The Atlantics Jeffrey Goldberg, a close watcher of the Obama teams Mideast work tried to force a rupture in the governing coalition that will make it necessary for Netanyahu to take into his government [Tzipi] Livnis centrist Kadima Party.
Obama colluded with the Russians....remember this (Hot mike...)....how did Obama know he would win?
Obama was constantly interfering in foreign elections:
https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples/
Including France, Britain, and Canada:
Trump: "Mr. Putin, I would like to formally request that you extradite the twelve intelligence operatives who interfered in our elections."
Putin: "Come now Comrade. Would you extradite members of your intelligence community such as James Comey, Robert Mueller, or Peter Strok to face Russian justice if I requested it?
Trump: "Yes...in a heartbeat...."
And the Brexit vote.
Now that Mueller, with RR’s blessing, has indicted a second group of Russians, will we start seeing tinpot governments around the world indict US military and civilians for “meddling?” What if some of them are arrested outside the US?
Because the whole Establishment was in bed with him on that.
Found 81 times that the U.S. interfered in other country’s elections,
Media shocked stunned nope they knew it all the time.
How bout screaming from the mountaintops the DIM INTERFERENCE?
Voter fraud isnt interference? Huh? Its been going on for decades if not centuries. JFK? LBJ? Mayors Daley? California? Franken?
Seriously. The hypocrisy stinks to High Heaven
Like the purple finger idea..
BUT
My devious mind conjures up groups of LIBS running around with bottles of purple ink waylaying NON D voters and forcibly dipping their fingers ....
As to election interference, JC was going around the world ‘monitoring’ elections in other countries WITH our ‘blessing’ AT least no one Official had the gonads to tell him to Flock Off and mind his own business.
Finally somebody said it.
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Its been a long wait.
I bet Putin and Trump, both who understand the spying game quite well, had a good laugh about this.
And note: The 21,000 plus employees of the CIA arent just sitting around. Im sure at least a few thousand do nothing but spy on Russia or support that spying.
Did not Soetero interfere with Venezuela, Honduras, and Israel? I do know Honduras early on and Israel just as Bubba Clintoon did back in the 90’s.
What makes you think we have done it “more” that the Russians have? Russia as the USSR kept entire nations under the thumb of the communist party, controlling their elections for years.
There’s no data on who does it “more.” Suffice it to say if there’s opportunity everyone will do it, if it’s in their interest.
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