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Posted on 07/02/2018 8:08:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
Dozens of protesters marched through the streets of Portland, Oregon, on Sunday, demanding action after Portland State University police shot and killed a Navy veteran. Cellphone video captured the early Friday incident when, witnesses say, Jason Washington was trying to break up a fight.
It appears Washington's gun fell from its holster before police shot him.
This isn't the first time tensions have risen at the university over armed campus safety officers.
Students have been strongly opposed since the policy began in 2015.
One protester said she feared that it was only a matter of time before someone got killed.
CBS News correspondent David Begnaud reports the incident occurred Friday after a fight started to escalate outside a sports bar. According to witnesses, the 45-year-old Washington, who is seen in cellphone video carrying a gun on his right hip, tried to intervene, but fell during the scuffle.
Washington's gun apparently fell from its holster. Witnesses said campus police opened fire when he tried to pick it up.
Washington was a U.S. Navy veteran who worked for the post office. Police told reporters he had a concealed carry permit for his handgun.
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Curious, would you say the same thing if the dead man were another cop and not ‘just’ an honorable US Navy veteran?
Note to self. If I drop my gun, DO NOT pick it up in front of cops.
Playing devil’s advocate here.
Did he know the cops were there? Did he disobey an order to not pick it up?
In his place, if you didn’t know, would you just leave it on the ground for someone else to pick it up and start shooting?
Or would you pick it up?
Was there an order or are you just makin' shit up?
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If you are carrying, why use your fists.
I had not heard that the flee killer was fired from UPitt, but I did hear it was his first day....having been sworn in earlier in the day.
His being an honorable US Navy veteran had nothing to do with nothing.
The guy made a bad judgment call. It cost him his life.
Maybe there is more to the story, but...
I don’t really frequent bars, and if I did I don’t think I would carry if I was indulging in any alcohol...
If I was in a bar, I don’t think I would take it upon myself to be breaking up others fights, whether I was carrying or not...
If I was carrying concealed, I’d make sure it was CONCEALED and not going to drop out...
This is a tragedy that a person carrying legal who may have been just trying to do a good deed was gunned down by a LEO who may have shot without assessing the situation, but the victim kind of put himself in a really bad situation. Carrying is a big responsibility not to be taken lightly.
If you are carrying why the hell would you intervene? That’s just a terrible idea.
He wasn’t following orders.
Anybody who does that should be shot.
But in your mind or at least your rhetoric over the years here cops should shoot everyone. Except you. You of course are special.
Cops see a melee with one of the participants going for a gun, end of story. Short of training our police to stare at goats and become psychic, it’s best to conclude that, in spite of the power of intent, there’s a lot to life that remains accidental.
Except you. You of course are special.
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By special, you mean that I don’t drop a CCW at a drunken bar fight, then yeah.
I’m very special.
But it’s always a “good shoot” with you. So why in the world are you getting into the specifics of this case?
“They shot an innocent man who had a legal right to carry.
These bastards are MURDERERS and I don’t give one single damn about their contemptible orders. They do NOT have a right to kill every single person who legally carries.
THIS is why we have a Second Amendment in the first place and that’s so we can defend ourselves from our own government.
In a growing number of jurisdictions it is clearly necessary for law abiding citizens to arm themselves and defend against the criminal gang that hides behind a badge.”
Confusion in the midst of a bar fight - the police don’t know who is who and who is doing what and someone reaches for a gun - sorry, they want to go home at night. You try making a split second decision like that. No, you would rather knee jerk blame the police.
“These bastards are MURDERERS”
What page of the leftist handbook of cliches did you get this from?
I'm a firearms enthusiast but I recognize that when guns are involved, serious accidents are possible. This situation sounds like a very unfortunate misunderstanding. I'm sure that the Navy veteran acted without thinking about the consequences of grabbing the weapon in an altercation. The police responded as trained to neutralize a perceived threat. I hope this doesn't come across as too calloused but an occasional accident like this is the cost of having an armed populace. The benefits of an armed populace outweigh the cost of the occasional, unfortunate accidents like this one.
“What page of the leftist handbook of cliches did you get this from?”
Don’t you know that radical left document with all that propaganda about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? And then how it goes on to condemn the government officers who oppress citizens? And don’t even get me started about that other Marxist handbook with the nonsense about how people have a right to defend themselves from their own government.
Clearly the leftists who wrote all that claptrap don’t understand the sublime nuances of the modern militarized police state.
Where is the video?
Especially when they are yelling to drop the weapon - which my understanding is what video captured happening.
Sad tragedy in a messed-up situation.
I think the proper term for a black man carrying a concealed weapon around police is “suicidal”.
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