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What Black Voters Want
The Atlantic ^ | 5/8/2018

Posted on 05/09/2018 3:40:59 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

In 2018, black voters are finding out just what the hell they had to lose.

Nazis and Klansmen march openly and proudly, and hate crimes appear to be on the rise. Police killings of people—especially black people—remain largely the same year to year, and this iteration of the Justice Department has largely abdicated any federal responsibility in reducing brutality. An infant-mortality crisis is tightening its grip on the most marginalized communities, and across many economic metrics—from evictions, to generational wealth, to segregation—disparities are either stagnating or trending in the wrong direction. Fifty years after the Kerner Commission’s report said the country was “moving toward two societies, one black, one white—separate and unequal,” the prophecy has been all but fully realized. As Americans head to the polls in primaries this year and prepare to do their civic duties this fall and in the fall of 2020, the 50 years of backlash against civil rights that helped fulfill that prediction might either be ratified or repudiated. Yet, in the middle of a nationwide conversation of diner visits and coal-miner profiles in service of understanding people who voted for President Trump and this regime, there’s been remarkably little analysis of the demographic that voted against him almost entirely. What drives and motivates black citizens to vote, and is simply being anti-Trump enough to get them out this fall?

A new poll due to be released by the independent political organization BlackPAC sheds light on the motivations of black voters. Conducted by former Obama and DNC pollster and strategist Cornell Belcher and his firm, Brilliant Corners Research & Strategies, the poll of 1,000 black voters in the battleground states of Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan, North Carolina, Illinois...

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Florida; US: Illinois; US: Michigan; US: Missouri; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2018issues; 2020election; blackvote; cornellbelcher; election2018; election2020; florida; illinois; incometaxes; michigan; missouri; northcarolina; ohio; pennsylvania; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; virginia
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To: jmaroneps37

Yup...But they will vote democratic thinking that will help them!.....The Plantation mentality is a hard thing to shake...there’s almost a pride in it...


41 posted on 05/09/2018 6:29:18 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: The Toll
HA! Love your response.

Good job.

42 posted on 05/09/2018 6:34:40 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (Nobody is perfect. And I'm nobody.)
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To: cowboyusa

I wouldn’t say that. In the Democrat primary, cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh all went for Clinton, who was obviously less leftward than Sanders. In the Deep South, Sanders rarely reached 30% of the vote. Sanders performed best in New England and the Pacific Northwest, mostly white areas. From my assessment, it’s white liberals who tend to vote for far-left candidates. Obama was far-left, but had he been white I don’t think he would have won the primary in ‘08.

Add to that the fact that in most southern states, blacks usually make up 1/3 of the population. In almost every other state they’re below 15%.


43 posted on 05/09/2018 6:35:42 PM PDT by Mafe
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To: Altura Ct.

If this poll is anything close to accurate, my fellow blacks are even more collectively deranged than I thought. The opportunities for blacks were never worse than under Obama and they’ve never been better than under Trump (so far). That they somehow believe it’s exactly the opposite is really sad.


44 posted on 05/09/2018 7:42:09 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

I sense that things are changing, especially in the great lakes states.


45 posted on 05/09/2018 8:03:48 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

“If this poll is anything close to accurate, my fellow blacks are even more collectively deranged than I thought.”

Consider the source: “A new poll due to be released by the independent political organization BlackPAC” ... when have you ever seen a leftist outfit conduct a poll that wasn’t fake?


46 posted on 05/09/2018 8:35:55 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: Altura Ct.

What black voters want is more free stuff. LBJ said he’d haven them voting Democrat for years if the Democrats would only promise blacks free stuff.


47 posted on 05/09/2018 9:05:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: Altura Ct.

The Atlantic joke is concocting a fake narrative of why blacks voted against Trump 95 -5, even though that has been the black voting pattern for 25 years. It must be Trump.


48 posted on 05/09/2018 9:32:26 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: dowcaet
It’s only May. The race card usually doesn’t come out in election years until late September into October. The Democrat pollsters must be getting some bad internal numbers!

Kanye, Diamond and Silk, and numerous other blacks are openly announcing that the Democrats should no longer have their 95% allegiance... and it terrifies them.

49 posted on 05/09/2018 10:06:24 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Altura Ct.
YOU ARE STILL CRYING WOLF (About Trump “Racism”)

50 posted on 05/10/2018 9:42:31 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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Note: this topic is from 05/09/2018. Thanks Altura Ct.
Nothing like amnesty for illegals to win over the black vote. Wait, what?

51 posted on 06/10/2018 3:40:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Altura Ct.

FAKE “HATE CRIMES” - THE TRUTH:

FROM LINK: http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-false

...the narrative has been bolstered by a few high-profile incidents of alleged aggression in Trump’s America.

The first one to really go viral involved a Muslim female student at the University of Louisiana who claimed to have had her hijab ripped off and her wallet stolen the day after Trump’s election by two white men wearing Trump hats. But on Thursday, local police announced that the young woman had admitted she fabricated the story. “This incident is no longer under investigation,” the Lafayette Police Department said in a press release.

In another incident, this one in San Diego, a young Muslim woman’s purse and car were stolen by one white male and one Hispanic male. While the men allegedly made negative comments about Muslims, it seems car stealing was more their motivation than harassment or intimidation—which is obviously shitty, but not necessarily a Trump-inspired act of bigotry.

And an alleged incident of a gay man named Chris Ball getting beaten up by Trump supporters in Santa Monica on election night seems to have not happened the way it was initially recounted, if the incident even happened at all. The Santa Monica Police Department posted a message to Facebook Thursday saying that neither the department nor city officials had “received any information indicating this crime occurred in the City of Santa Monica” and “a check of local hospitals revealed there was no victim of any such incident admitted or treated.”

Other instances of “Trump inspired” violence and vandalism have also turned out to be hoaxes or misinterpretations. An alleged Ku Klux Klan rally in honor of Trump’s victory turned out to be an old photo of conservatives carrying U.S., Gadsden, and Christian flags that were billowing out in a manner mistaken in a grainy photo for Klan robes. There were no Southern Illinois University students posting blackface selfies to social media after Trump’s win.

A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter.”

Other anti-Semitic imagery—such as “Sieg Heil 2016” spray-painted on an abandoned store front in Philadelphia—may have been legit expressions of bigotry or may have been similar attempts at commentary on Trump’s election; it’s unclear because no one is taking credit for them. The bulk of racist graffiti incidents appear to have happened around middle- and high-schools, which doesn’t make their messages any less hurtful, I’m sure, but does suggest a phenomenon driven by mean and immature kids rather than rogue bands of serious neo-Nazis.

And while all sorts of horrible incidents are being reported on Twitter and Facebook... well, anyone can say anything on Twitter and Facebook. The bulk of these stories are “friend of a friend” told me types. But if men were really going around pulling knives on Muslim women on public buses in Trump’s name, there would at least be local or campus news reports of it. Same, too, for the alleged wave of transgender teen suicides which keep getting mentioned in media but for which no one can offer any evidence. (Update: more on the alleged suicides here.)

I point all of this out not to mock or attempt to diminish the fear or dismay any individuals feel right now but to put things in perspective. The “hate acts reported across the country” in the wake of Trump’s victory seem mostly relegated to graffiti at a few schools and one carjacking which may or may not have had anything to do with racial or religious prejudice.

Less dramatic acts of racism—name calling, derogatory comments made in passing, etc.—do seem to be bubbling up more frequently this week, if the sheer number of such anecdotes shared online means anything. But while that’s a shame in and of itself, it’s also a world apart from the wave of “hate crimes” and violent attacks that many are conjuring up right now.

Pushers of this “rampant racist crimewave” in Trump’s America story will dismiss posts like this one, and anyone who challenges their narrative, as naive, enabling of racists, or unconscionably non-empathetic to non-straight, white, Christian Americans. But I’m not the one trying to stoke false terror in vulnerable people or over-hype America’s levels of hate for pageviews and Twitter faves.

Update, November 12: Two more tales of race-based and Trump-inspired harassment have begun to unravel...

In one of the widely-shared stories, a black woman claimed that four white men had threatened her while she was pumping gas at a Smyrna, Delaware, gas station Wednesday. After talking about things would change now that Trump was president, one of the men allegedly approached her and asked, “How scared are you, black bitch?” before saying “I should kill you right now. You’re a waste of air.” Another of the men allegedly flashed a gun and said, “You’re lucky there’s witnesses or else I’d shoot you right here.”

The woman, Ashley Boyer, posted about this awful incident on Facebook in an update that was since deleted; on Thursday, she followed up by noting that “charges were filed, fugitives were caught.” But when PhillyVoice contacted Smyrna police Thursday, the department said no report about such an incident had been filed and no one had contacted them about anything similar. So PhillyVoice reached out to Delaware State Police... who reported that no neighboring police agencies had received any such reports either, and there was no record of any local 911 calls about such an incident. “There is no record of this occurring in Smyrna, if at all,” said Corporal Brian Donner of the Delaware State Police.

The second alleged incident, out of Minnesota, involved an Asian college student named Kathy Mirah Tu who said she was accosted by a white man while crossing a bridge on the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities campus. “I was stop in my tracked by a white male, who yelled at me to ‘Go back to Asia,’” Tu posted to Facebook, in an update that had received more than 17,000 shares as of Thursday evening. “I pretended to not hear any thing and continue on walking since I didn’t want to create conflict. Shortly after that moment, I was stopped by that same man who told me ‘Don’t you know it’s disrespectful to walk away from someone when they are talking to you?” After that, the man grabbed Tu’s wrist and threatened to hit her so she punched him, according to her post. “His friends who were watching the entire situation go down saw that I was going to the win fight and came over to his rescue and accused me of assaulting him and called the police.”

According to Tu, the police arrived and handcuffed her but eventually let her off with a warning. Yet neither the campus police nor the Minneapolis Police Department have any record of the incident


52 posted on 06/10/2018 9:27:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos/democrats demand 'respect' for porn stars, hookers, ...MS13 but NOT Melania.)
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To: Altura Ct.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

Alleged assault by black man on 13yr old girl, calling her a “terrorist”. Never happened. 2018-04-06 Woodbridge VA http://www.princewilliamtimes.com/news/update-polic... Police: Alleged victim falsely reported hate crime / 2018-04-10

336. Convicted of false claims of rape 2017-10-01 South Setauket NY http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/06/woman-pleads-g... Woman pleads guilty to making up rape allegations against two college football players / 2018-06-06

335. Police in northern Virginia say a girl has been charged after she lied to police, falsely reporting ... 2018-04-06 Woodbridge VA https://pilotonline.com/news/nation-world/virginia/... Girl who claimed she was attacked because of “religious attire” charged with lying to police / Police in northern Virginia say a girl has been charged after she lied to police, falsely reporting that she had been held at knifepoint by a man who ripped off her headscarf. Prince William County / 2018-04-10

334. The article reports feelings as if they are facts 2018-03-18 London UK https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/19/a-t... A third of UK Muslims report abuse or crime while studying / A third of UK Muslims report abuse or crime while studying / 2018-03-18

333. “After a detailed investigation, police have determined that the events described in the original ne... 2018-01-12 Toronto ON http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/scarborough-h... Reported hijab attack on 11-year-old girl ‘did not happen,’ Toronto police say / 11-year-old Canadian girl claimed her hijab was ripped off of her. Now, “After a detailed investigation, police have determined that the events described in the original news release did not happen / 2018-01-15

332. Most of these campus fake hate crimes or graffiti were committed by members of the minorities they a... 2017-11-01 Many US https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/40361/ Year in Review: 17 campus hate crimes that turned out to be hoaxes in 2017 / 17 campus hate crimes that turned out to be hoaxes in 2017. Most of them were committed by members of the minority the hate crime (or graffiti) appeared to target. / 2017-12-26

331. Investigators conclude alleged victim is the perpetrator. 2017-11-15 Aircraft Carrier George HW Bush Atlantic https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/12/08... Sailor staged racist vandalism, Navy says / Black sailor vandalizes his own rack with racial slurs. NCIS investigation concludes the alleged victim staged the vandalism himself. / 2017-12-08

330. Black male vandalized five black churches, for which there is video surveillance evidence for the la... 2017-11-25 Morristown New Jersey http://www.dailywire.com/news/23988/heres-latest-ha... Black man vandalized five black churches / Black male vandalized five black churches, for which there is video surveillance evidence for the latest string of “hate crimes” discovered to be a hoax. The suspect, Zuri C. Towns, apparently attended / 2017-11-27

329. “This is very much a white person issue that we need to tackle as white people and speak up against,... 2017-11-16 Chesterfield MO http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/22/nonwhite-stude... ‘Non-white’ student linked to racist graffiti inside school, officials say / Parkway Central High School in Chesterfield MO is disciplining a non-white student for writing racist messages against non-white people. / 2017-11-22

327. Cadet candidate allegedly targeted by racism found responsible for act... 2017-09-25 Air Force Academy Colorado http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/07/hate-hoax-air-for... HATE HOAX: Air Force Academy Cadet Candidate Wrote Fake Racist Messages Himself / Racist messages written on a whiteboard at the Air Force Academy in September that made national news and inspired an impassioned speech from a lieutenant general were written by a student supposedly v / 2017-11-07

326. Racist graffiti that was painted on a car parked near Kansas State University last week turned out a... 2017-11-06 Kansas State U Kansas http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/06/k-state-hate-graf... Hate Graffiti Turns Out To Be — You Guessed It — A Hoax / Racist graffiti that was painted on a car parked near Kansas State University last week turned out a hoax, and was written by the car’s owner. The words “Go Home N***** Boy” and “Whites Only” were p / 2017-11-07


53 posted on 06/10/2018 9:31:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos/democrats demand 'respect' for porn stars, hookers, ...MS13 but NOT Melania.)
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