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America and the EMP threat
americanthinker.com ^ | 5/3/2018 | Daniel Ashman

Posted on 05/03/2018 8:35:00 AM PDT by rktman

A congressional committee report states that a large electromagnetic pulse (EMP) inundating America could cause 90% of Americans to die. The EMP is inevitable. The dead Americans are not.

Pry explained that an EMP can happen in a few different ways: if an adversary attacks America using nuclear weapons, or naturally via a large solar storm. The reason why a large EMP hitting Earth is inevitable is that solar storms are inevitable. They happen regularly. The only question is when a large one will cross Earth's path. For instance, NASA reported that if a solar superstorm from 2012 had happened just one week earlier, it would have blasted the Earth with a catastrophic EMP. We are playing this slot machine every day. Eventually, we're going to hit the jackpot.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: emp; friedelectronics; prepper; preppers
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To: rktman

Someplace I read or heard that the lead time on some of the replacement equipment (from China) is two years. But that could be a longer time if it’s a solar storm hitting the planet. And who says anyone would help us out anyway?

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I’ve read the same things. Not good.


81 posted on 05/03/2018 11:29:45 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Me, I’d rather NOT take a chance when it comes to something that has a significantly greater than 0% chance of ending our nation, or at least hurting us a LOT. The $20 billion to $50 billion that it’d cost us to significantly ameliorate the effects of an EMP, spread over 10-20 years, is peanuts compared to what we spend on utter crap that does us no good whatsoever.

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Right on!!


82 posted on 05/03/2018 11:31:26 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: rktman

That’s it, I’ve had it, I am leaving this planet.


83 posted on 05/03/2018 11:35:53 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: laplata

The whole thing reminds me of arguments I had with friends in high school back in 1971. They would say things like, “what are you going to do if the government doesn’t honor your U.S. Savings Bond.” My response was that if we find ourselves in an environment where they are not honoring savings bond’s that is going to be the least of your problems.


84 posted on 05/03/2018 11:37:30 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: higgmeister

I’ve been on sites where nearly all were whining that they couldn’t bear to live if this were to happen. Such a bunch of babies. Zero willpower, zero skills, zero, zero, zero. They’d rather have a green crayon than an extra can of green beans.


85 posted on 05/03/2018 11:38:13 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: PA Engineer

Lightening struck our house frying the tv, freezer and everything along one circuit. Not fun.


86 posted on 05/03/2018 11:40:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: PA Engineer

I did the math for that in post #56...


87 posted on 05/03/2018 11:41:36 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack
I did the math for that in post #56...

No you didn't. Read my post slowly.
88 posted on 05/03/2018 11:48:12 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Mariner

Only stupid people** believe man-made EMP, more than several miles from the source, will cause any damage whatsoever.

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As a “stupid people,” I actually went to the article from Popular Mechanics that was referenced in your link.

It should be noted that the Popular Mechanics article is a year old (lots of facts about Norks and their nuclear capabilities have changed since). The major premise of the article is that Norks could not kill 90 percent of Americans with an EMP because they don’t have Nukes. Secondary premise is that nuke-caused EMP would not do the damage “stupid people” believe.

That said, it is Popular Mechanics...it was not sourced with any experts, and the author is a journalist, not a PhD. I have never considered Popular Mechanics to be heavy, serious reading, so I am not surprised that no experts quoted and author is a journalist.

The article’s author drew a number of questionable conclusions but it should be noted that did he not rule out devastation caused by other sources of EMPs such as Carrington event...

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a25883/north-korea-cant-kill-ninety-percent-of-americans/

“Stupid People”...**Dr Pry is considered America’s foremost expert on this topic. He has two Ph.D.s and a certificate on nuclear weapon design, worked at the CIA for a decade, worked on the House Armed Services Committee, and then served as director of the EMP Committee.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/05/america_and_the_emp_threat.html#ixzz5ESnZtOWu
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89 posted on 05/03/2018 11:48:44 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: PA Engineer
I would like to add something about modern house wiring. I have stated this before. There is a large antenna in the walls of most modern homes. A Carrington like event will ruin many peoples day. There are ways to mitigate that effect. The National Electric Code should be changed to revise home construction and retrofit. For those that don't, best to keep some fire extinguishers around. The majority of the electric surge is not going to come from without the house, but within it.

Talk about your uneven ground potential... LOL

I'll never forget. Around 1987 I think. We had just turned up a small remote site and had noise complaints from customers. The Grounding Engineer pulled out an old hand held transistor radio from his pocket. He shoved the tuner dial all the way over as far as it would go and started walking around the raised floor. He found several raised floor pedestals that were acting as antennas. That was just his quick check. He pulled out all of his high tech gear to verify and isolate the problems. There was also a nearby ATC Radar site that was interfering.

So, in addition to the house wiring, other factors could exacerbate the situation you described. Multiple ground taps on different points on cold water pipes... etc.

90 posted on 05/03/2018 11:52:59 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: robroys woman

“,Wereallgonnadie”

Speak for yourself. We keep 12 mos of survival food, 3 large blue plastic water tanks filled, 2 gravity water filters, grain grinder, flint strikers, life straws, 4 chickens and raised bed garden. Yes we went prepper crazy about 8 years ago. Lol!


91 posted on 05/03/2018 12:09:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Ancesthntr

My response was to a CME EMP, not a nuclear EMP. Please don’t conflate these two types of EMP as the poster I replied to has.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

“An electromagnetic pulse (EMP), also sometimes called a transient electromagnetic disturbance, is a short burst of electromagnetic energy. Such a pulse’s origination may be a natural occurrence or man-made and can occur as a radiated, electric, or magnetic field or a conducted electric current, depending on the source.”


92 posted on 05/03/2018 12:10:09 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Heh! We did too, but not THAT crazy. ;)

We’re just finishing our “permanent” chicken run this weekend. We have no survival food though, other than the “food” running around the property. :)


93 posted on 05/03/2018 12:16:05 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: George from New England

Isn’t this why we have the flux capacitor ?!


Yes, and in a few years, or was it 2015, the Mr. Fusion adapter will replace the messy plutonium needed for the necessary 1.21 gigawatts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT7hNhop7w


94 posted on 05/03/2018 12:16:13 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Thank you for the ping. 90%, that’s amazing. It’ll be tough going for those that are left.


95 posted on 05/03/2018 12:19:04 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: rktman

Something is going to collapse civilization within nations that have turned their backs on God and embraced reprobate perversion... like the U.S. is currently doing.

Such cataclysmic destruction has happened to every civilization that has done so throughout the history of the world. The collapse of societies can be directly correlated with their decline into perversion. The rise and acceptance of murder is a good indicator of such tolerance of perversion. In some cultures this takes the form of human sacrifice in idol worship. In ours it happens to be in abortion.

Normalcy bias causes people to imagine life will go on just as we’ve always known it. But cataclysm always follows.

This is why today is the National Day of Prayer. Without God no other remedies will protect our economy, health, or national security.


96 posted on 05/03/2018 12:22:08 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: robroys woman

We are going to get some more chickens soon but we keep putting it off because introducing new hens means about 30 days of chaos before the old ones accept them. We did it a couple of years ago and I almost had a nervous breakdown. LOL!


97 posted on 05/03/2018 12:25:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Freedom56v2

A Carrington Event DOES have the potential to eliminate the electrical infrastructure.

But it is several orders of magnitude more powerful than nukes.


98 posted on 05/03/2018 12:30:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: laplata

Dude there are tens of thousands if not millions of “EMP” strikes every day.... It’s called lightning.


99 posted on 05/03/2018 12:35:48 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Mariner

A Carrington Event DOES have the potential to eliminate the electrical infrastructure.


I never said it did not.


100 posted on 05/03/2018 12:39:56 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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