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800,000 people are about to flee New York and California because of taxes, say economists
MSN.COM ^ | 04/27/2018 | Robert Frank

Posted on 04/27/2018 7:43:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Conservative economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore are predicting a new mass exodus of wealth from New York and California because of the new tax law. But academics who have studied taxes and migration call the forecast "pure nonsense."

In an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal headlined "So Long, California. Sayonara, New York," Laffer and Moore (who have both advised President Donald Trump) say the new tax bill will cause a net 800,000 people to move out of California and New York over the next three years.

The tax changes limit the deduction of state and local taxes to $10,000, so many high-earning taxpayers in high-tax states will actually face a tax increase under the new tax code.

Laffer and Moore say that the effective income-tax rate (what people actually pay) for high earners in California will jump from 8.5 percent to 13 percent. Wealthy Manhattanites would face a similar increase, they say. Those who make $10 million or more will see a potential tax hike of 50 percent or more, according to their analysis.

Those hikes, they say, will cause an exodus of residents to move to lower or no-income tax states.

"In years to come, millions of people, thousands of businesses and tens of billions of dollars of net income will flee high-tax blue states for low-tax red states," they said. They say 800,000 people will move from California and New York over the next three years. Connecticut, New Jersey and Minnesota will lose a combined 500,000 people over the same period.

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1 posted on 04/27/2018 7:43:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yet a good number of them will likely bring their idiotic values and voting habits to those states. Maybe a few Red Staters ought to think about doing the same to New York and California (in irony, of course).


2 posted on 04/27/2018 7:46:34 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Things also suck here the South with all the banjo players, rickets, and cross burnings. They should find another close liberal state like NJ or Washington.


3 posted on 04/27/2018 7:47:51 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (When words can mean anything, they can also mean nothing.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m from NJ. I love NJ because it is suburbia. I will never move, unless if circumstances change. I may move to PA. I want access to NYC.


4 posted on 04/27/2018 7:48:20 AM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ugh!

Hopefully, they bypass Kansas!

5 posted on 04/27/2018 7:50:30 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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That works for me...

I have a rural horse property for sale near Reno NV. Private mail me for more info. This year’s property taxes==less than $700.


6 posted on 04/27/2018 7:50:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is bad. They carry social diseases to their new home states. We need to do the Berlin thing and wall them in.


7 posted on 04/27/2018 7:51:19 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Responsibility2nd

We always tell our young snowflake relatives in California how hideously hot and humid North Texas is, and how backward and unenlightened the people are. Hee hee.


8 posted on 04/27/2018 7:51:55 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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The scary thing is, these people are infected with liberalitis, and the cure rate seems pretty low. Plus, many of the people who will be exposed to them have no natural defenses. So the infection rate is also high.


9 posted on 04/27/2018 7:52:06 AM PDT by robel
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To: Responsibility2nd

A huge number of wealthy Californians have been considering a move out of the state if they can for many years

California’s quality of life, even for wealthy people, is taking a nose dive

This new tax law could be the straw that breaks the camels back for many


10 posted on 04/27/2018 7:54:03 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Responsibility2nd

Same for Oklahoma.


11 posted on 04/27/2018 7:54:16 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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12 posted on 04/27/2018 7:56:59 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

They should find another close liberal state like NJ or Washington.
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Washington would be fine except for the city-states of Seattle, Vancouver, and Spokane. Flyover country still has the morals that this country was founded upon. Unfortunately the high income earners congregate near large cities, so send them to Chicago, instead.


13 posted on 04/27/2018 7:58:08 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: lurk

The first to go are Conservatives who want out of Liberal hell holes like CA and NY.


14 posted on 04/27/2018 8:00:12 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Responsibility2nd

If they’re the Conservatives fine.....otherwise, the virus is leaving the dying host just to infect a healthy host.


15 posted on 04/27/2018 8:00:15 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Responsibility2nd

So, did Pelosi lie or is she just plain ignorant?

The presented evidence is that the rich are being taxed more, not less. Something is bad wrong with the Pelosi statement that the tax bill was to give breaks to the rich


16 posted on 04/27/2018 8:00:27 AM PDT by bert (RE)
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To: Responsibility2nd

not good!


17 posted on 04/27/2018 8:00:46 AM PDT by MNDude
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Who will pay for the Cuomo NY socialist welfare state? These Lefties must be stupid OR intent on bankrupting their states.


18 posted on 04/27/2018 8:03:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Yeah...They’re already here in Arizona. They call themselves Red for Ed, and their on strike for more money and more lifetime pensions.


19 posted on 04/27/2018 8:03:51 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unfortunately, they Californicate every where they go.


20 posted on 04/27/2018 8:03:54 AM PDT by jim_trent
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